What to Do When Your Dog Has a Vaccine Reaction

Written by Jan on December 2, 2010 – 1:32 pm

IS THIS AN EMERGENCY?  If your dog is breathing heavily, his face is swelling and eyes watering, and/or he’s vomiting, has hives or is having a seizure or collapsing, your dog is having a potentially life-threatening allergic reaction. CALL YOUR VET IMMEDIATELY! and start for your vet’s office or an emergency facility while, preferably, someone else drives.  (You do know where the nearest emergency vet is, don’t you?)

Your vet may not recognize your dog’s symptoms as a vaccine reaction and probably won’t want to believe or admit that the shot he/she administered brought on this problem.  If you believe it’s a vaccine reaction, be strong. You know your dog better than your vet does. Above all, keep your wits about you. Don’t be pressured into doing anything that doesn’t feel right. For example, if your dog has her first seizure ever soon after vaccination, she is probably having a vaccine reaction; she probably does NOT suddenly have a brain tumor requiring a $800 MRI!  As they say, when you hear hoof beats, think horses not zebras! 

Similarly, if your vet wants to give your dog antibiotics because she may have developed some unknown infection  the day after the shot (rather than a vaccine reaction), question that assumption. Antibiotics given needlessly can lead to antibiotic resistance and even autoimmune disease, and will destroy good intestinal flora which can potentially lead to gastrointestinal problems and allergies. Vets (and medical doctors) too often recommend antibiotics because they don’t know what else to do and feel they should do something.  Insist on a good evidence-based reason for giving any antibiotic.

If you’re having an emergency, read about CPR or scroll down to Treatment.

Pet CPR:  If your dog isn’t breathing, you’ll need to take action fast.  Here’s an instructional video on pet CPR .  Also see these written instructions which you can print out.

Non-immediate reactions:  If your dog has developed any unexplained health or behavioral problem within 45 to 60 days of vaccination, or even longer, it may be a reaction to the shot.  If you suspect the problem may be connected to a vaccine, you’ll likely have to convince your vet. It’s common to hear “it couldn’t be the shot” or “a reaction like that isn’t possible” — even when the reaction is a common one.

Many primary vets believe vaccine reactions to be rare, in large part because severe cases go to emergency clinics, not back to the primary vet.  The World Small Animal Veterinary Association, WSAVA (p. 55), says: “It is generally only the adverse reactions that occur within the first few hours to a day after vaccination that are considered vaccine-associated by most veterinarians or owners. Even when the adverse reaction occurs shortly after vaccination there are many who fail to recognize that the vaccine caused the reaction. Certain adverse vaccine reactions are not observed until days, weeks or even months and years after vaccination or revaccination. The autoimmune disorders and the injection site sarcomas, which are among the rare vaccine adverse reactions, may not develop for years after being triggered by vaccines.”

Even the drug’s manufacturer (to whom you should immediately report the reaction) may deny the connection. (Admitting it may cost them money.)  If your dog got a rabies vaccination plus another vaccine of any kind, make sure you know where on the body the different shots were given and the name and serial number of each shot. This is especially important if your dog got a rabies shot.

Insist on seeing every product’s package insert. Get it from your vet or call the manufacturer and ask if it’s viewable on-line. (It probably is, but they won’t admit it. Note: the Material Safety Data  Sheet, or MSDA, is not the same thing.) Also know that long-term reactions aren’t usually documented or even studied. So persevere! A suspected vaccine reaction, especially one supported by your vet, may entitle you to compensation for medical expenses from the drug manufacturer.

Which dogs are most likely to have reactions?  Small and medium-sized dogs are the most likely, especially when given more than one vaccine at a time. (DALPPC, a common “combo shot,” contains SIX vaccines! If your vet gives rabies or Bordetella at the same time, that’s EIGHT!)  For more about this, read my article about a study published in the American Veterinary Medical Association Journal showing the connection between multiple vaccines and reactions. (Give your vet a copy.) Note: multiple vaccines also make it difficult to figure out which vaccine caused the reaction. Just one of countless good reasons not to allow them!  (Wait at least three weeks between shots and pesticides like heartworm meds.)

Dogs vaccinated when they are not healthy, dogs with previous adverse reactions to vaccines and dogs vaccinated within three weeks of a previous vaccination are also more likely to react adversely. Read this article on Protecting Dogs from Vaccine Reactions to find other ways you or your vet may have put your dog at risk.

How prevalent are reactions?   The USDA/CVB 2008 Report states that “Rabies vaccines are the most common group of biological products identified in adverse event reports received by the CVB.”  In 2007, 6500 reactions were reported for the canine rabies vaccine alone.  Unfortunately, former FDA commissioner David Kessler estimated that only 1% of all drug reactions are ever reported (even for human reactions). Thus, approximately 650,000 rabies vaccine reactions likely occurred.  Add to that more than a dozen other vaccines also causing reactions. Worse yet, long-term reactions are seldom even recognized let alone reported.

What reactions are commonly seen?  Common rabies vaccine reactions, followed by the percentage of reactions reported to the USDA (many of which are also reactions to other vaccines): Vomiting-28.1%; facial swelling-26.3%; injection site swelling or lump-19.4%; lethargy-12%; urticaria(hives)-10.1%; circulatory shock-8.3%; injection site pain-7.4%; pruritus-7.4%; injection site alopecia or hair loss-6.9%; death-5.5%; lack of consciousness-5.5; diarrhea-4.6%; hypersensitivity (not specified)-4.6%; fever-4.1%;, anaphylaxis-2.8%; ataxia-2.8%; lameness-2.8%; general signs of pain-2.3%; hyperactivity-2.3%; injection site scab or crust-2.3%;, muscle tremor-2.3%; tachycardia-2.3%; and thrombocytopenia-2.3%.  (Oddly, they don’t list seizures which may occur after rabies vaccination. Click here for more on seizures.)

Other reactions considered “possibly related to vaccination” included acute hypersensitivity (59%); local reactions (27%); systemic reactions, which refers to short-term lethargy, fever, general pain, anorexia, or behavioral changes, with or without gastrointestinal disturbances starting within 3 days after vaccination (9%); autoimmune disorders (3%); and other (2%).

Also see the chart on page 54 of the WSAVA Vaccination Guidelines (which lists seizures.)

What to Do If You Suspect Your Dog is Having a Vaccine Reaction

1.  Get treatment!

In emergencies: Most dogs will get emergency treatment from a conventional vet — often from an emergency facility veterinarian you don’t know.  The vet will likely administer steroids and an antihistamine.  These are the conventional treatments of choice.  Most important at this point is to save your dog’s life.  Note: Unless there is a good evidence-based reason for your dog to get antibiotics, consider whether or not this is a wise course of action.

If you have a relationship with a holistic vet and can get immediate treatment, you will probably be offered homeopathy and/or acupuncture — which unlike steroids and antihistamines have no harmful side effects.

Non emergencies and long-term treatment: If possible, find a vet trained in homeopathy to treat your dog — to “clear” the bad effects of the vaccine rather than just suppress symptoms. See these vet referral lists  If you can’t find a good vet, or can’t afford one, contact me for other experts you can contact.  The rabies vaccine alone can cause blood disease, autoimmune disease and more. Find a list of rabies vaccine reactions here.

Watch your dog carefully for new or worsened symptoms. Report all changes to your vet.  If the symptoms are visual, take photograph or videotape what is happened.

2. Document everything!  Make sure all vets treating your dog record any reaction in detail (even a mild one) in your dog’s file. Ask the vet to sign the notation about the reaction. Vets retire, move and lose files. Keep a copy of the file in a safe place along with any photos or video.

If the reaction was to the rabies vaccine, you’ll want to ask your vet to apply for a medical exemption when the shot is due again.  Ask the vet to write a letter now to use later. If the reaction is to any other vaccine, you may want to get an exemption from groomers and boarders who require  other vaccines — most if not all of which are unnecessary.  (Please read our page on vaccinating before you give another shot of any kind.  And check your state’s rabies law and also your local Animal Control to see if local exemption options differ.)

3. Call the vaccine manufacturer.  Get the vaccine brand, serial number and lot number from the vet who administered the vaccine to report to the manufacturer (who in turn is legally required to report the reaction to the USDA).  Ask your vet to report the reaction but don’t expect that he or she will. The 2006 American Hospital Association Canine Vaccine Task Force Report pleads with vets, page after page, to report reactions — because they seldom do. Vets either don’t link the health or behavior problem to the vaccine … or they can’t be bothered.  Thus, reactions go unrecognized and reported, and dangerous vaccines stay on the market.

If the vaccine can be proven to be at fault, you may be able to recover your expenses from the manufacturer. Reporting is in your best interests.

If, tragically, your dog dies or has to be put down, ask the manufacturer if they’ll pay for a necropsy (autopsy). If they won’t pay, but it’s pretty clear that the vaccine caused the dog’s death, you might want to pay for it yourself (if you can) and then go after the manufacturer for reimbursement. This is especially important with injection-site tumors.

4. Report the Reaction to the USDA  Go to the USDA animal vaccine reaction reporting page  to view information on reporting adverse events. The reporting form can be accessed from that page and submitted electronically, or it can be mailed or faxed to the Center for Veterinary Biologics. Or call the CVB at (800) 752-6255.

Why should you bother?  The only way for the USDA to track drug reactions is by receiving reports from vets, pet owners and manufacturers. Theoretically, if enough reactions are reported, the drug can be recalled.

5. Report your vet.

If your vet didn’t advise you before vaccination about possible reactions, or let you know if the vaccine was even necessary, file a report with your state veterinary medical association.  In some states, they’ll tell you if your vet has a history of negligence. In others, they won’t tell you anything. Filing a report can result in no action being taken, so be prepared to be disappointed. But do it anyway. Multiple complaints can make a difference.

Wait until you’ve gotten everything you need from your vet before filing the complaint. Also, fire that vet and tell him or her why.  Click here to find a list of vets with holistic and/or homeopathic experience to treat your dog in the future.

6. Take More Action.  If your vet’s behavior was particularly negligent and harmful, especially if the vet is with a large corporate practice, consider contacting your state’s Attorney General and/or a local television consumer reporter and/or the Better Business Bureau. Laws are changing because consumers have taken action.

7.  Stop vaccinating unnecessarily. Your vet should have told you before vaccinating that parvovirus (one “P” in DALPPC) lasts 9 years to a lifetime; the same with distemper (D). The L, leptospirosis, shouldn’t be given to a small dog unless there’s an epidemic. C, Coronavirus, is for a very mild, rare disease of very young puppies. It’s often called a vaccine looking for a disease.  A is for adenovirus 2, a disease virtually unknown in North America. Read more about your vet’s duties to get your informed consent.

Additional articles of interest: Vaccinating Dogs: 10 Steps to Eliminating Unnecessary Shots and see how long vaccines give immunity here under Point #6.
Rabies Vaccination: 13 Ways to Vaccinate More Safely
Vaccinating Small Dogs: Risks Vets Aren’t Revealing
Protecting Dogs From Vaccine Reactions
How to Report Vaccine Reactions
Questions to Ask Before Vaccinating

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Get Our Vaccination DVD: W. Jean Dodds, DVM and Ronald D. Schultz, PhD spoke at our Safer Pet Vaccination Benefit Seminar in March 2010. A DVD of the event is available. Buy it at http://www.dogs4dogs.com/New%20Shopping%20Cart/Check%20out%20page.htm Or learn more about it at http://www.dogs4dogs.com/saferpet. Learn more about rabies vaccination at www.truth4dogs.org and about vaccination in general at http://www.dogs4dogs.com/shots and at http://www.truth4dogs.com.

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163 Comments to “What to Do When Your Dog Has a Vaccine Reaction”


  1. Catherine Ritlaw Says:

    Thank you for your ongoing effort to warn people about vaccine problems. I have a sanctuary full of immune-damaged dogs, all with a history of over-vaccination, low thyroid.

  2. Debbie G Says:

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    Maltese/Poodle

    These two poor girls will need a special home.. They were found abandoned in an apt left to die. Just by looking at them you can see the pain and suffering they lived with..

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  4. Branden Parker Says:

    Hi,
    I am at my wit’s end!!!!! On Dec. 6th, our Emma (a 2.5 y/o pit/lab mix) went for her annual check up and received ALL shots the vet had to offer. On Dec 10th she had a sever seizure and has not been right since. Took her back to the vet that gave her the shots and was told “she seems fine now. some dogs just have unexplained seizures now and then and it is probably not related to the vaccinations.”

    Here I am now, 3 weeks later and my dog has lost all zest for life. Our once exuberant life of the party just lies around the house and if you try to get her to play, she breaks eye contact and acts like someone beat her (though she has NEVER had a hand laid on her).

    Had a new vet check her out today and they said, “its probably not related to the vaccines at all. The holidays can be stressful on a pet when they get out of their routine. Just give her some time to settle back in and she should be fine.” Well, SHE’S NOT FINE AND IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE HOLIDAYS!!!

    I wish I had known about this site before we took our Emma to the vet and got all those shots. I was never told that she could experience side effects like this. All they said was we could expect some localized swelling and maybe some malaise for a day or two.

    I miss my old Emma, even if she jumped on company. I would give anything to have her back to her old self. Please help!
    Branden
    Westbrook, Maine

  5. Jan Says:

    Branden, don’t give up on your dog, but dump both of those ignorant vets. It’s unlikely your adult dog even needed the shots. Certainly a combo shot was not needed or even wise. http://www.dogs4dogs.com/blog/2009/04/22/no-unnecessary-dog-shots/

    Two things I’d do to help your dog. Find a vet with homeopathic expertise. There are referral lists at http://www.dogs4dogs.com/vet There are also vets who will communicate by phone if none are in your area. I can help you find one. Homeopathy can also help “clear” the vaccine.
    Make sure your dog has a full thyroid panel. Thyroid problems can cause seizures and behavior changes as can vaccination. http://www.dogs4dogs.com/blog/2010/12/28/is-your-dog%e2%80%99s-bad-behavior-caused-by-a-health-problem/

    Please reread the section on reporting the adverse reaction to the drug company. http://www.dogs4dogs.com/blog/2010/12/02/what-to-do-when-your-dog-has-a-vaccine-reaction/ Make sure first that both vets recorded your observations in your dog’s file, and get a copy. The vaccine company may help pay for treatment, at least a thyroid panel. Seizures are a known reaction to vaccination. Don’t let them tell you that they’re not.

    I just hate what your vets did, one for over-vaccinating an adult dog, both for not recognizing the reaction. Shame on them.

    Don’t give up on your dog. There’s an excellent change the condition can be reversed — but not by a vet who didn’t even recognize the reaction.

  6. Branden Parker Says:

    Thanks Jan,
    The vet called today with Emma’s liver and kidney panel results and her BUN is elevated to a level of 50 (was advised that normal range is 4-25). He has suggested a prescription diet (Science Diet k/d) to support her kidney function for a month and new tests to follow. He wants to know if 50 was the “high” and we are catching it on the way up or if it is falling from a much higher level.

    He is still adamant that the vaccines have nothing to do with her very sudden onset of symptoms and suggested poisoning (highly unlikely since she is NEVER out of our sight unless she is in her crate, or a congenital condition that has been coming on and we didn’t notice subtle changes in her until it reached the epic proportions that we see now. I pride myself on knowing my dog pretty well and can usually detect subtle changes in her mood and demeanor. I think I would have noticed something.

    Anyway, I am wondering if there is any liability on the part of the vet who gave her all the vaccinations? Not so much for the vaccinations, but for not doing anything to investigate the cause of the seizure, i.e. draw some blood to see if her BUN was elevated then. We could have started treatment almost 3 weeks sooner!

    I sincerely hope that our Emma will become well again, and I thank you for all you advice.
    Branden

  7. Michelle (posted by Jan) Says:

    My question is:
    If a dog is allergic to beef, won’t she be allergic to some of these vaccines? Aren’t they made with bovine tissue?

    The problem I’m facing:
    My last belgian died on Christmas Eve (2009) – within a weeks of his last rabies shot in November. (He had puppy shots and a few others in his 2nd year. He was on a home-made and raw diet with supplements his entire life) There were always some kind of reaction to any vaccine – dragging foot, weak mucles in back legs, lethargy, etc. So I quit vaccines except for the 3 yr rabies. He had an autoimmune disease for the 3 yrs prior to his last rabies shot and the vet would not let me by-pass his last rabies vaccination. I went to another with the same result. They both said he still looked healthy enough to get the shot. So I relented and he died a few weeks later. He was 10 and not an “old” 10. By looking at him, people usually guessed him much younger.

    This past year I bought another Belgian pup. She was a little over 4 months old when I got her. The breeder had just gotten her rabies vaccine (and deworming) but nothing else before I got her.

    The first week she was VERY aggressive to my other 7 yr old dog (attacking her for just walking past). I had to constantly monitor situations when they were together. After the first week, I was ready to give her back to the breeder, but the breeder wouldn’t take her. The pup was also scratching, drinking LOADS of water, and not really urinating that much for the amount of water she was drinking. She was due for her distemper shot anyway and I made a vet appointment. I advised of the aggression, water and peeing issues, and her constant itching. I told the tech that I was also there for her distemper shot, and she would also need a parvo shot somewhere down the line – thinking that I would get them done separately. The vet gave her a shot and I asked when I should come back for the Parvo shot. He told me that he gave her a Distemper/Parvo/Parainfluenza/Adenovirus. She was also treated for urinary problems with antibiotics – 2 courses – because the UTI wouldn’t clear up. They wanted to keep her on antibiotics but I said no. At the same time I asked about the itching and the vet said to concentrate on one thing at a time – if it was allergies, he didn’t want to put her on prednisone at such an early age. Her UTI continued and the vet suggested that if I was going to later spay her anyway, he’d do it now and do exploratory surgery at the same time to check for a reason for her UTI. I agreed and she was spayed at 8 months old. Nothing was found and he did a cysto – which came back clean, even tho 2 days after the test she had peed a pretty good amount of blood – I told the vet. He said that we could put her back on antibiotics, but I again declined and figured I’d try to treat her with alternative methods. I went searching for a holistic vet – not very common in our area. The pups itching and scratching continued, only now it was much worse than before – she was also biting, and losing mounds of fur. She’d wake me up every 2 hours all through the night because she was so uncomfortable. And when she was sleeping, she’d moan and groan. (Nothing the holistic vet has given us has worked for this) All along I had thought this might be some kind of allergy. She is on a home-made diet with supplements which I’ve been doing for 10 years – and includes pre & probiotics, omega oils. I thought it could be a food allergy and made adjustments. I have noticed that if she is given beef in any form it makes matters worse – then it’s almost non-stop, minute to minute itching, scratching biting. However, even when off beef for months, she continues to itch, bite, scratch, and lose fur. With the winter months and snow and cold, there has been no change – so according to the vet probably isn’t an outside allergy. The vet also didn’t think it was a food allergy, but he had seen her after I had taken her off beef.

    Personally, I’m wondering if the cause of her problems are the vaccines. First the rabies – before I got her, and evidently she had a UTI when she got the shot, and then the distemper – and matters got much worse. I’ve started reading up on these vaccine problems and it makes sense that it could be the shots. She was sooo bad for awhile there, that I was hoping I would not have to put her down. The ONLY things that seem to help are massaging her and applying Young Living Essential Oils. But even this is only temporary. At this point I feel I need to forget the shots. I know they’re required by law. But I don’t want to have to put my dog down because she’s allergic to the shots or the bovine tissue in the shot.
    Could it be the bovine tissue in the shots causing her problems? And if so, how long does that part of the shot last? Any other suggestions on how to get her through this?

    Thanks for any and all help, advice, suggestions you can offer.

  8. Jan Says:

    Michelle, both of your dogs seem to have had vaccine reactions. The rear end lack of coordination is a symtom of rabies vaccinosis, as is aggression. Any vaccines can cause allergies and lethargy.

    I’m appalled that your vet vaccinated your poor dog and operated on her! What was the hurry???? Surgery and vaccines are for healthy dogs only!

    Re the bovine tissue in the vaccines, it may or may not be in the vaccine and there’s no way I know of to check. The ingredients are proprietary.

    If it is in there and your dogs were allergic, that’s certainly problematic. It could have set off a lifetime of problems. Your best bet is a vet skilled in homeopathic therapy. Did you check the vet referral links at http://www.dogs4dogs.com/vet ? If you can’t find one, contact me again and I’ll give you two people who will work by phone. Where do you live? Maybe I know a good vet there.

    If you want to test your dog’s immunity rather than ever vaccinate her again, you can do a parvo/distemper antibody titer. Have your vet draw the blood and send it to Dr. Jean Dodds to read. http://www.hemopet.org Her prices are good and she’s the best! She’s also a vaccination expert and knows a lot about the rabies vaccine. To avoid the rabies vaccine, you’ll have to get a legal medical exemption. For this, you’ll need to have a vet apply for it. Make sure all your dog’s symptoms are in her file and get a copy of the file.

    Another thought: although food can kick off allergies, the tendency to react can be caused by vaccination. There’s a product you might try: http://www.optimumchoices.com/ It’s inexpensive and you can call them and tell them about your dog’s problems. Tell them I sent you.

  9. alice howe Says:

    NJ has a recently enacted dog licensing law. Licenses must be renewed in January and if your dog’s rabies shot ‘runs out’ within the next 10 1/2 months you are required to have the dog re-inoculated in January at the time you apply for a license. So, if I had had my dog inoculated this past November 2010(the 1 year shot), I would be required to have the shot re-administered in January 2011…that is 2 months later…and for my dog that means 6 months early. I think rabies shots are important but my dog has had rabies shots reactions and I don’t want him to have the shot early. I am waiting for a call from my vet because my town will accept a vet’s note…saying in this case that my dog needs to wait another 6 months. Has anyone else come up against this problem?

  10. Krantz Says:

    Listen, I am so glad that someone is going after these vaccination companies. But I need to inform you about the danger of vaccinations to humans. It’s incredibly important that you look into things like the Flu Vaccination; there is something terrible happening in the United States, things I cannot even begin to explain lest I sound crazy. You need to fight the Flu Vaccine if you’re not already. Animals are important, but the lives of human beings are at risk. Women are miscarrying, people are developing Tardive Dyskoniesia, people are actually passing away, and the vaccinations have been linked to brain damage and certain autisms. Not to mention they lower the autoimmune responses, because they are loaded with poisonous chemicals. E-mail me so I know you got this. Listen America is under attack, these vaccines tie into much worse things. Peace be with you.

  11. Jan Says:

    Krantz, you have no need to educate me on the danger of vaccines to humans. I hope everyone takes the time to learn about any medication they put in their body. The immune system of humans and dogs are very similar.

  12. Jan Says:

    Alice, I know the Rabies Challenge Fund is aware of this law. It puts bureaucracy and money ahead of animal health. It is possible the animal control officer in your area is unaware of the many adverse reactions to the rabies vaccine. The money frequent the shot, the more likely the adverse reactions. Vaccination expert Dr. Jean Dodds wrote: “Rabies vaccines are the most common group of biological products identified in adverse event reports received by the USDA’s Center for Veterinary Biologics (CVB).” Put simply, no other vaccine causes as many reactions. Read more at http://www.dogs4dogs.com/blog/2010/06/15/rabies-vaccination-medical-exemptions-for-unhealthy-dogs/#more-899

    Just one person has changed rabies laws in dozens of states. I hope you’ll become that person in NJ.

  13. Christine Says:

    I just lost my best friend and my heart in December. Rocky was a healthy, happy and highly intelligent Otterhound mix that had developed a very intense distaste for veterinarians in recent years. I should have listened to my dog. He objected in an extreme manner when I took him for his annual shots and all the while I thought I was doing the best for him.

    Rocky never had been sick a day in his life, but about a week after his last vet visit and injections he started vomiting, urinating in the house and became extremely lethargic and wouldn’t eat anything. I took him to the vet who suggested that he may have had a virus. He had no fever, but they gave him antibotics and some special dog food. Charged me $400 for the food and the emergency care and sent us home.

    I took him home and the next day I offered him boiled chicken and gave him sugar water, which he seemed to respond to and within another day, he was back to his old self, eating, playing running and having fun. The only symptom that seemed to linger was his urinating in the house not on a daily basis, but only in the morning and never beyond that. 2 weeks later he collapsed and could not get up and seemed to have very laboured breathing. I layed down with him and talked to him and petted him. He was cognizant and reactive, but he would not get up and his breathing was getting worse. I took him to the vet hospital and they could not tell me what was wrong. Shortly after we arrived, they told me he had lost all conciousness and did they want me to try and revive his vitals.

    I still don’t know what happened for sure, but at this point I even regret taking him in after his collapse. I will forever regret not taking him in for blood tests after he seemed to recover from his illness, but he hated needles so much and I did not want to take him back to the vet when he seemed so much better. At that point I had believed the vet and figured he had a “stomach flu” or something. Ater reading this information I will never subject another animal to unnecessary injections again. My sweet Rocky. I’m so sorry and I will miss you forever.

  14. Jan Says:

    Christine, I’m so sorry for your loss. I hope you file a claim against the vet with your state’s veterinary board for not giving you full information about the needlessness, and potential risk, of annual shots. Also, that he didn’t inform you about what was clearly a vaccine reaction. A virus? Please. I’d also write him a letter telling him that you want your $400 back. You can also report him to your Better Business Board. I know it’s hard to do all this, but it’s the only way to make him think twice about what he’s doing. I’d be happy to send you links that verify that annual shots are not recommended by any vet organization or US vet school.

  15. Roxie Says:

    Your article says to contact you if can’t afford vet, I had my daschound/lab mixed vaccinated a couple of weeks ago with a 3 year shot. I noticed she was sleeping a lot lately. Now I’ve discovered several sores in different locations including her ears. I’m currently out of work and can not afford a vet, are there any natural solutions?

  16. Jan Says:

    Roxie, I’m sorry for you and your dog’s problems. This article on assistance with vet bills might help: http://www.dogs4dogs.com/blog/2009/10/27/help-with-vet-bills/

    Immediately contact the vet who gave the shot and/or check the receipt to find out the brand, lot # and serial # of the rabies vaccine, then call the manufacturer and report the problem. They may pay for tests and treatment. Or may not. It would help if a vet thinks the sores are an adverse reaction to the rabies vaccines. If you haven’t already told your vet about the problem, do so immediately and make sure it is recorded in your dog’s file.

    Also read this article http://www.dogs4dogs.com/blog4dogs/2009/07/01/rabies-vaccine-skin-reaction-ischemic-dermatopathy/ and do some research on Ischemic Dermatopathy.

    Try the manufacturer first. Be insistent. If they won’t help, contact Marina at naturalrearing.com and see if she has any ideas.

    Wish I could help more. Don’t just ignore this problem. It could be serious.

  17. Diane Says:

    I had a 8 year old Maltese. We had him groomed January 27th and of course the rabies vaccine. When we brought him home he would just shake and not eat or drink for the first 2 days. He started eating and drinking, but still shaking. Three weeks later he was acting different, not eating, or drinking when he would walk sometimes he would just fall over. Took him back to the vet told them that he has not been the same since he received the shot. Of course they said that it had nothing to do with the shot. Wasn’t sure what was wrong. Sent us home. I took him back on Wednesday, while we were there he had a seizure and a heart murmur (that he didn’t have the day before). Gave us Prednisolone and Diazepam. She told us that he needed to see a neurologist and cardiologist and be prepared to pay atleast $2,000 of course we could not afford to take him. That night he acting more like himself except he was still weak. He has always turned circles to the right since he was a puppy, when we would ask him if he wanted a treat or to go outside. The vet also told us that was not normal that it was a neurological problem. Thursday we called the vet back to let her know that he was still having seizures, so she told us to give him the Diazepam every 6 hrs instead of when needed and if he kept having them to bring him back in. So about 30 minutes later he had another one, we took him back to the vet and she gave him a shot of Phenobarbital and gave us a prescription for them. We brought him home and by 8:00 he died. I am not sure if it was something neurological or what. I do know that before I took him to get groomed and the rabies vaccine he was a healthy dog. Now I have lost my baby!

  18. Jan Says:

    Diane, I’m so sorry for your loss. What you’re describing is a vaccine reaction. And I suspect your vet knows it. She probably didn’t want to take responsibility and didn’t know what to do. I hope you contact the drug manufacturer and report what happened. This is important. Seizures are a known reaction to the rabies vaccine. Ask your vet for the vaccine package insert. I bet seizures are there as possible reactions. If your vet won’t give you the info, that tells you everything. But you have a legal right to your dog’s file. Get it or get a copy.

  19. Michelle Says:

    Hi, I have a couple of questions and I’m really worried after reading all of these things.

    I got my little 10 pound chihuahua mix vaccinated two weeks ago, but midweek I noticed he started developing a huge lump above his ribs. I took him back to the vet and he just said it may be a vaccine reaction and that the lump was filled with fluid. So he went ahead and took my dog and had put tubes in the lump in order to drain it. My dog had to keep it for 4 days and I had to be constantly cleaning it. Just today he had the tubes removed and now he has two holes that still leak a bit of fluid. I was told to continue cleaning, so I am….but is it really safe to just leave the wounds open like that? Surely, it can be at greater risk to infection. Reading all of this, I’m guessing what initially happened to my baby was the rabies vaccine? I foolishly had the whole set done on him. Obviously something went wrong because we weren’t charged for the tubes.

    At the same time, I had my full-bred chihuahua vaccinated as well. I haven’t noticed any sort of changes to him, other than he yelps a bit when you touch his thigh, so should I take him back in? He still has appetite, runs around, and is happy.

    My last question deals with my 3 month old Dalmatian. He has had 2 sets of vaccines thus far, but not the rabies yet. Should I just avoid the rabies shot all together or?

    I really don’t want my babies hurt anymore.

  20. Randy Mueller Says:

    HI.. I wish I could save my dog! I took her to my backup Vet, cause my regular vet was on vacation. Wll, she got the shot, as mandated by the State of Wisconsin,… Many people commented to me how beautiful my 4 year old Weimaraner was… Now, 2 weeks later, she os covered with HUGE HIVES, TREMBELING, TIRED and SHAKING… NEITHER VET AGREES ON WHAT AND WHY… Neither agrees on treatment. I am giving her Benadryl, Steroids and Amoxcycillian… She came in POSITIVE on the snap LYMES test. She is a house dog and has not had a tick that I know of and she is checked daily. She is now shaking and trembles, the hives are scabbing, breaking, bleeding, etc and I can not find any help with the Vets… I honestly fear she may die! What do we do? She is a great dog! Very smart, and just an awesome friend!

  21. Jan Says:

    Randy, if it were my dog, I’d consult Dr. Konrad Kruesi. He consults by phone. You just send in the dog’s records. He’s brilliant and his prices are reasonable. He treats both my dogs. http://www.crvetcenter.com You need a vet trained in homeopathy. You might also try the referral lists at http://www.dogs4dogs.com/vets

    Have you contracted the drug manufacturer? If not, do so immediately. They may also help you pay for the treatment.

    Don’t delay.

  22. Stephen and Christine Says:

    Help!

    My wife and I recently adopted a Siberian husky puppy. At the time, the puppies were 9 weeks old. We selected one named Ed. While we were picking out Ed, my wife also fell in love with one of the other litter mates, named Fred.

    At the vet’s office the other day, my wife ran into the breeder and Fred. Fred had been sick with a disease called puppy strangles (juvenile cellulites). Because of this, Fred was never adopted. The puppies are four months old.

    The problem started one week after the first vaccination was given. Once it was diagnosed, Fred was treated with steroids and antibiotics. However, the problem has flared up after each of the subsequent rounds of vaccinations. Fred is still scheduled for the final round of vaccinations. Also, because the steroids are intended to suppress the immune system, the vet mentioned risk of demodectic mange (i.e. mange mites).
    We are interested in adopting Fred. However, we don’t know what continued medical issues may come up. What should we do?

    Thanks, Stephen and Christine

  23. Stephen and Christine Says:

    Hello again,
    one more after-thought: Fred had fever, swelling of the face and neck, hives (mouth and eye area) – these symptoms sound like the reaction against the vaccine! And Fred had a relapse after the next vaccination!! Now I don’t want to sound paranoid, but is ‘puppy stranges’ a disease that was invented to cover up whenever puppies have allergic reactions to the vaccinations? To me it sounds like that! We would love to get Fred and make him healthy, just worried about the longterm risks. We really appreciate your insight. Christine & Stephen

  24. Jan Says:

    Hi Stephen and Christine. Have a vet run an antibody titer test done to see if Fred even needs vaccinating. No vet I know would vaccinate him unless his life is in danger from the disease and titers are very low. It’s likely he already has immunity to parvo and distemper, the important shots. Read about titer testing here: http://www.dogs4dogs.com/blog/2008/10/22/titer-test/ Read about unnecessary dog vaccines here: http://www.dogs4dogs.com/blog/2009/04/22/no-unnecessary-dog-shots/

    If you decide to get Fred, and his titers are high, I’d see a vet trained in homeopathy to treat the damage done.
    Steroids are not a cure. See referrals at http://www.dogs4dogs.com/vets Also, feed the best possible food, probably a good raw diet. Learn more at http://www.dogs4dogs.com/food

    I hope this helps.

  25. Justin J Says:

    Jan,

    I was a victim of the stupid NJ law. I live in Mount Laurel, NJ. Scared to death for my pup right now. Time to vote out these politicians for their lack of knowledge and common sense and I will now dedicate a lot of time doing so and trying to get the law changed.

    Please share any advice!

    About 1 month ago my 5-year old beagle was told he had to be vaccinated or they would levy a huge fine against us. He had a “1 year vaccine” on August 1st before we adopted him from the shelter. So his next vaccine was about 8-9 months later, just finding out now it was a few months early (the vet didn’t mention this!) He had some general soreness at the injection site, but nothing overly problematic right away. He still went for walks and ate and drank, etc.

    The pain never seemed to go away and seemed to worsen over time. He’d have good days and bad days. We have been to THREE vets that people recommended and they all think it’s back, nerve, etc and say it can’t possibly be related to the rabies vaccine. My friend who works for SPCA tipped me off to your site and I wish I knew this info beforehand. The vet did a HORRIBLE job (never educated about risks) and shouldn’t practice!

    I need to know how to help my buddy heal. Within the last day or two he yelps half of the time he walks and has poor rear coordination. He had an appointment scheduled for Monday but I’m going to take him tomorrow to an ER, probably University of Penn. Anti-inflammatory/steroids which were given failed and did not work. X-rays were negative and there were no injection site issues or masses in his body so the vets are stumped.

    Here’s my question to Jan or anyone else who is informed on this: Have dogs with similar symptoms been able to bounce back? I’ve seen the symptoms and problems listed but not solutions. Right now it’s mainly pain and rear end coordination and his back left leg looks weak. He’s still eating and drinking and going to the bathroom as normal, he’s just in pain doing so. Right now he’s sleeping on his doggy bed next to me and breathing normally. When he gets up in the morning I’m going to take him in. Please share your thoughts!!

    Justin J
    Mount Laurel, New Jersey

  26. Jan Says:

    Justin, please tell me what kind of vets your dog has seen. Are they all conventional? Have you seen a neurologist? A homeopath? Let me know what the last vet said.

  27. Justin J Says:

    Jan,

    We took him to a couple local vets who seemed to have no clue what was going on. Then we took him to see a neurologist at University of Penn. They were way more open to looking into a possible vaccine reaction then the local vets were and seemed very knowledgeable about the reactions. They also didn’t rule out the reaction being due to distemper shot he had the same day. They did some tests and thought he possibly had meningitis or a disk issue in his back. Today, they performed an MRI on him which showed a compressed disk 50% into his spinal column which was consistent to the area he yelps when you touch him most. They performed surgery today and the surgeon said his prognosis is “excellent.” I will keep you posted. Surprisingly Jan, I’ll give them credit. The neurologist at UPenn didn’t dismiss my talk of vaccine reactions like the local vets did. He very seriously considered it and did testing. We’ll see what happens. I ran the MRI by 2 other neurology specialists that had no financial gain involved and they said we “100% made the right choice” to do the surgery to avoid permanent nerve damage. What I have learned on your site so far about overvaccination is scary and I’m 500% more aware now than I was a week ago.

    Justin

  28. Jan Says:

    Justin, thanks for the update. I’m happy to hear that the prognosis looks great. Universities tend to be more open to vaccinosis, although some still aren’t. I’m glad Penn was. They have done interesting work on heartworms. I based a few articles on their work, in fact.

    Not all things that COULD be vaccine reactions are, but certainly they should be ruled out first. I know you must have spent a fortune on all this. You’re a great dad! Please keep me posted.

  29. Tricia Schlosser Says:

    I adopted a 12 week old Maltese puppy March 22 and she was due for her 3rd DHPP on April 4. Two days later she had hypoglycemia and I gave her Nutrical and rushed her to the ER and her blood sugar was normal at that time. The very next day she started vomiting and I rushed her to my vet who gave her fluids sub-Q and a shot for vomiting. I took her home and she kept on vomiting and so I rushed her to the ER again and they kept her all night and ran barium x-ray studies on her to check for a blockage. I asked about her recent vaccination 3 days earlier and the ER vet said not likely as a reaction would have happened immediately. Three days ago (three weeks later) she had her 4th DHPP and started vomiting as soon as we got home from the vet (within 20 minutes). I rushed her back to my vet who administered benadryl and some kind of prednisone injections and had a syringe of epinephrine ready while he had us stay there another 45 minutes. I asked him if she could possibly have had a reaction 3 weeks earlier when she had hypoglycemia and vomiting and he said probably not but she was having a reaction to this 4th DHPP. He also made note of it in her char. I’m starting to think the two incidents are related even though the ER vet and my vet deny it. She’s due for rabies in 2 weeks and I am going to cancel the appt. until she’s months older and I will no longer let her get DHPP boosters. Do you think I am over-reacting? I am worried sick for my puppy and don’t know what to do.

  30. Jan Says:

    Hi Tricia. Do I think you’re over-reacting? NO! I think you’re under-reacting!

    Reactions happen as long as ten years later (cancer) and countless reactions happen up to 45 days later. Vomiting usually is immediately, but not always. It certainly should have been considered. That vomiting was a reaction the second time, it surely was the first time.

    You have read my article on reactions. Call the manufacturer and report both reactions. Ask your vet to do the same. Ask the drug manufacturer to pay your vet bills. Get a copy of your dog’s file and the drug package insert. You’ll have to insist.

    Your dog has a 95% chance of being immune for life to distemper and parvo if vaccinated after 15 weeks. If you want proof, ask for an antibody titer test. (There’s an article about titers at truth4dogs.com). Re the rabies vaccine, your dog may or may not react. All vaccine are different. However, I would try to get an exemption as your dog allready has health problems. If you can afford to contact a vet trained in homeopathy, do so. You don’t want your dog to have any long-term reactions.

    BTW, vets almost always deny that anything short of instant death or collapse is caused by shots. It’s their livelihood that’s at risk.

  31. Tricia Schlosser Says:

    Jan, thank you for your reply. I am very fortunate in that my veterinarian has listened to what I had to say regarding the adverse vaccination reactions Mootsie had and he has advised me that Mootsie, will never have another vaccination including rabies due to her severe reactions. I’ve also contacted the manufacturer of the vaccines. Thank you for signing my copy of your book. Your dogs are beautiful. Thank you for everything!!

  32. Jan Says:

    Tricia, I am thrilled that your vet is protecting your dog. That’s wonderful!

  33. Randy Zemany Says:

    my chinese Crested had been given a rabies vac so that I could have her groomed. With in a few days she started vomiting some yellow foam and sometimes falling down. now she does not really want to do anything. I contacted Banfield vets several times for them to give me a call but never recieved any call back. Today I went back over to them and was told that the vet I had was not there and I could bring the dog in any time then they could talk to me about her. I again said she was fine till she got the shot and is now going down hill.

  34. Jan Says:

    Randy, I just wrote this to a woman with a similar problem: Your dog needs to see a vet immediately. If your vet doesn’t know what to do, and he/she probably doesn’t know how to treat vaccinosis, contact Dr. Jean Dodds at hemopet.com. She will likely consult with you at no charge, although you should offer a donation to her nonprofit. Or try Marina at naturalrearing.com or any local vet with knowledge of homeopathy. See a referral list at http://www.dogs4dogs.com/vets Also, contact the vaccine manufacturer. They should pay for your vet care. Don’t be surprised if you vet says “it couldn’t be the shot.” That’s easier than doing something about it.

    I wish you and your dog the best of luck.

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  36. Elizabeth L. Says:

    My 10 yr old mini Schnauzer went to the vet last week for his annual check-up, rabies booster and lepto and DHPP booster. A week to the day of this visit, he is now acting in strange ways that I have never seen before. He was absolutely restless and ithcing all day yesterday, would jump from chair to couch to crate to bed all afternoon and evening and ended up doing this all night long. He is now hiding underneath my bed and will not come out. I am now afraid that this is due to a reaction from all of the vaccines he received last week. I’ve been reading this site and this type of reaction doesn’t seem typical of other vaccine reactions I have seen. Again, this is a sudden onset of behavior that I have not seen in the 10 yrs since I have had my dog. Any thoughts or comments would be most appreciated. Thanks.

  37. Jan Says:

    Elizabeth, in my opinion, your adult dog had 5 puppy shots he didn’t need and, worse yet, he had them with a rabies shot. Fire your vet!

    There was a study published in the American Veterinary Medical Journal, using data from Banfield vets, showing that miniature Schnauzers are among the dogs who react worst to multiple shots at once. Doesn’t your vet study journals? You can read a condensed version here: http://www.dogs4dogs.com/blog/2009/09/30/vaccinating-small-dogs-risks-vets-arent-revealing/ If you want the actual study, write me.

    Please follow the health info in the article you read about What to Do When Your Dog Has a Vaccine Reaction. http://www.dogs4dogs.com/blog/2010/12/02/what-to-do-when-your-dog-has-a-vaccine-reaction/

    Try to find a holistic vet to treat your dog. Do it now! See the referral lists at http://www.dogs4dogs.com/vets You need a vet trained in homeopathy.

    Don’t forget to get all the symptoms recorded in your dog’s file. And find out exactly what shots your dog got and call the manufacturer.

  38. Elizabeth L. Says:

    Thanks Jan. I spoke with my vet this morning – she naturally said that the shots could not have had anything to do with the condition he is experiencing right now. She tried to run down a list of things that could be causing this and wanted me to bring him in today to give him a shot of antihistamine and anti-inflammatory. She then said if that didn’t work, we would move on to more blood tests to see if it is liver related or something neurological. I am not subjecting my dog to any more of this. Thanks for the links – hopefully I will be able to find a holistic vet in my area.

  39. Rob Says:

    Our 4-month old Labrador Puppy was vaccinated with rabies yesterday and today he doesn’t like to eat and drink. He is so weak and whenever he eat he has been vomiting what he ate after an hour more or less.

    I am now worried if he can’t recover from this reaction.

    Just wanna ask, is it safe to get a 4-month old puppy to get vaccinated with rabies?

  40. Jan Says:

    Rob, 4 months is the age at which most dogs are required to be vaccinated against. Is it safe? It is required. I don’t feel that most rabies vaccines are all that safe. They are highly reactive. The safer ones are thimerosol (mercury) free.

    Do get some homeopathic help if you can. What to Do When Your Dog Has a Vaccine Reaction has advice on what to do. Definitely report the reaction to your vet and get it in your dog’s file. It will help next time around. Also, reactions should be reported to the manufacturer who will in turn report to the USDA. If you incur medical costs, they may help.

    Good luck.

  41. Cherylyn S Says:

    Hi,
    Our 4 year old pug, Hope, passed away aproximately 2 weeks ago. We had been to the vet for a routine check-up and rabies vaccine less than a month prior. During the visit they told us she had a clean bill of health with only some light tarter on her teeth. About 3 weeks after the visit, our pug began acting more sleepy than normal. She began trying to lick/eat the block pavers bricks in our back yard. Within days, she quit eating entirely and had no motivation to even move. She died very quickly, having convulsions while she layed in our master bedroom bath.
    When we heard that the vaccine could be a possible cause, we contacted the veternarian, Banfield Veternary in Turnersville, NJ. The veternary assistance said they have never heard of death being caused by a rabies vaccine, and that they had even asked the doctor who said she had never heard of it.
    It was then that I realized why I had never heard of possible side effects, the vet seemed to know nothing!
    I’ve since gotten the lot number, expiration date and maker of the vaccine.
    It still doesn’t help with our loss, but we want to be able to help others.
    What can we do now?
    Thank you for your time
    Cherylyn S

  42. Jan Says:

    Hi Cherylyn. I’m so sorry for your loss.

    I find it hard to believe that the vet didn’t know death was a possible side effect. It’s in the product insert. My guess is that they just didn’t want to admit it. It happens all the time. If they knew it, they violated the doctrine of informed consent by not advising you. BTW, Banfield is very pro-vaccine. Too pro in my opinion.

    Okay, what to do. Call the manufacturer and also write them. They will probably also say it’s not possible, but they know better. Here’s an article I suggest you read. Scroll down to where it says Non-Immediate Reactions and read on. It will tell you all about the reactions and the incidence of them. http://www.dogs4dogs.com/blog/2010/12/02/what-to-do-when-your-dog-has-a-vaccine-reaction/

    Again, I’m so sorry about your dog. It’s too sad for words.

  43. Mary Says:

    We have a shelter dog we think is a toy poodle but might be a mix.
    We’ve had him for 3 years now and think he’s 8. He is only 8 pounds.
    The first year we had him he appeared to be in perfect health. He vomited some but I changed his diet until it agreed with him.
    2 years ago we took him to the vet for his distemper and rabies shots.
    He was given 3 year shots of both. That night he had a severe seizure, couldn’t stand, foamed at the mouth and vomited. Of course the vet was closed and I took him to the ER. By the time we got there the seizure had stopped and he appeared to be back to normal. The vet gave him a shot of cortisone anyway. After that he began having seizures regularly until 6 months ago they were up to every 3-4 days. We took him back to the vet who said he probably had epilepsy. We were giver phenobarbitol for him to take 2x a day. The seizures have stopped, but I honestly believe the vaccines caused them. I have 9 grandchildren who are mostly not vaccinated as my children believe that the side effects are worse than the disease in most cases. Just recently I began to think that the vaccines might be the cause of the seizures. Neither my regular vet or the ER vet seemed to think so, but they can’t convince me otherwise.

  44. Jan Says:

    Mary, you wrote “He was given 3 year shots of both.” Surely they wouldn’t have given 3 shots each of distemper and parvo at one time. That would be crazy, incompetent, worse! Do you mean they got 3 shots each over time?

    Re seizures, they very well may be from vaccination. Please read this. http://www.dogs4dogs.com/dog-seizures-and-vaccination If you dog had a seizure, collapsed and vomited right after the shot, the vet should have immediately thought it was from the vaccine.

    Find out exactly what vaccines your dog got on the date that he collapsed. Then contact the manufacturer with details, plus the vaccine name, serial # and lot #. They should pay for your dog’s treatment. Find more details about reporting here: http://www.dogs4dogs.com/blog/2010/12/02/what-to-do-when-your-dog-has-a-vaccine-reaction/ Try to find a holistic vet trained in homeopathy to help get your dogs off meds and back to normal. http:www.dogs4dogs.com/vets

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  46. Jan Says:

    Thanks for your kind words. I hope truth4dogs have been helpful.

  47. Michelle Says:

    On Sept 26th our 2 dogs went in for shots. Our
    older 13 year old English Setter got rabies but the vet did not give her distemper because of her age. She started vomiting and had runny watery stool both with blood in less than 2 days later. She ate nothing and we had mess after mess.
    Yesterday, 1 week later we had her put down. She
    would eat nothing even cooked hamburger and rice and had lost 2 bs in 1 week. I called the vet office and asked if it could be from the shot or if she caught some illness from going to the clinic. They said they didn’t think so. I googled tonight to start reading all the information you offer and am alarmed at what I have read so far. I truly believe it was the rabies shot that triggered our dogs illness resulting in having to have her put down. The shot was maybe too much for her at her age or there was something underlying going on inside her.
    What if anything should we do? I want to get the word out
    there.

  48. Debbie Says:

    My dog had a problem he was always twitching a lot in his dreams. Should I be worried?and it is natural for a dog to breathe heavely?

  49. Jan Says:

    Debbie, your dog is probably just having a vivid dream, although I’m no expert on dreaming. Dogs sometime breathe heavily in their sleep. If your dog is awake, he may be hot. Make sure he has water and isn’t hot. If your dog seems in distress, call your vet.

  50. Rob Says:

    Re: Our 4-month old Labrador Puppy was vaccinated with rabies

    Hello Jan,

    Sorry for my late reply, but after few days that day when I commented above, our puppy was back to normal and he is very playful. Thanks for all the info you’ve been providing here.

    Cheers,
    Rob

  51. Jan Says:

    Rob, make sure your dog’s reaction was recorded in your dog’s file. You’ll want to try for an exemption in three years. Your dog is clearly allergic to the shot and revaccination could be very dangerous.

  52. Sue Says:

    My 9 yr old maltese has AIHA. At 1 yr old she developed it but recovered and has been healthy since. about two months ago now she and her sister had their rabies shot. it’s the only vaccine i’ve allowed to be given to her because – well i’ts rabies. about a wk later he tarted full on epileptic seizures. I took her back and she was put on phenobarbital. which made her not able to function. since the seizures happened at night my vet suggested only giving it to her at night. i’ve been doing that. trying to wean her off. so far it’s been about a week since she’s had the meds or a seizure. but she really needed them, sometimes when i didn’t give it she had them. but the seizures have lessened as time passes away from the date of the vaccine. I asked my vet if it could be causal and he was nonplussed to say the least. All this happened before i did any net research to find out if it could be causal. she never had any seizures prior and that was the only thing different that had occurred.

    i bought a book on amazon about dogs and epilepsy, they hinted that some vets think it’s related to vaccines but that was it but suggested accupuncture to help

    i looked into accupuncture but cound not find any holistic vet within public transport to take her to. when i looked into it is when she started to get better.

    so far a week has passed and no meds or seizures that i am aware of, and i’m with her most of the time.

    It’s the only shot i allowed since she was 1 yr old and it’s the last of any vaccine she will get if i can help it.

    anything else i can do for her at home to help with the possible seizures or things to help aid in recovery?

  53. Jan Says:

    Sue, I’m horrified any vet would even consider vaccinating any dog with AIHA. Any vet who knew anything about the disease or vaccination would never do it. But most conventional vets don’t. I just wrote an article called Why Vets Don’t Recognize Vaccine Reactions at http://www.dogs4dogs.com/blog/2011/12/17/why-vets-dont-recognize-vaccine-reactions/ The vaccine label says “for healthy dogs only.” Most vets will fight to avoid the rabies vaccine for an unhealthy dog; many states will allow exemptions with just a letter from a vet.

    Anyway, please read the last half of What to Do When Your Dog Has a Vaccine Reaction at http://www.dogs4dogs.com/blog/category/vaccination/vaccine-reactions-vaccination/ Just pass up the first section on emergencies. I feel really strongly that your dog needs a vet who is skilled in homeopathy. You’ll find links in the article. And you should report your vet and call the vaccine manufacturer.

    You might contact Russell at http://www.optimumchoices.com/ He once sent me information about his product and AIHA. I can’t give you any guarantees, but it’s worth a try. But please try to find a homeopathy vet. If you can’t find one nearby, I can highly recommend Dr. Kruesi at http://www.crvetcenter.com He has treated my dogs long distance for years and is absolutely brilliant.

    If your state doesn’t allow rabies medical exemptions, now is the time to change the law. It’s happening everywhere every day. Here’s the law in your state: http://www.dogs4dogs.com/rabies-laws California law has just changed and I haven’t posted the change yet.

  54. Jan Says:

    Sue, here’s someone else to try. Marina at naturalrearing.com

  55. Karen Harper Says:

    I have a 4 year old lab/shepherd mix – 55 lbs. I’ve had him for just over 2 years, my son had him for a year before that, and he adopted him from a animal rescue group. Clive is timid and sweet natured. When I first got him, I took him in to the vet and he was given the rabies vaccine. Clive seemed a little lethargic – but going the vet scares him, so I just thought it was doctor trauma. But I did call the vet, they recommended and I gave antihistamine. The next year Clive started acting very agitated about 17 days after receiving the vaccine. When I examined him it looked like he welts on his haunches. I had previously noticed some redness on his belly and wondered if he had been bitten by an insect, but he was acting normally. On day 18 I took him to the vet since his behavior had become erratic and agitated. They treated him for an allergic reaction and anxiety. By that evening all redness and sign of welts seemed to be gone and his behavior was 90% recovered. Over the next few days he seemed to recover completely. But no one suspected the vaccine connection. This year, 7 days after the vaccine he was covered in welts larger than quarters and acting erratic and agitated. On day 8 the vet treated him and we discussed the vaccine connection – especially since this reaction occurred more quickly and was easily 10X stronger. It is now day 11, Clive is showing slight improvement each day. I’m talking to the vet each day – and today the vet called the vaccine manufacturer and they and my vet agree that Clive should not be vaccinated again. I know this site doesn’t agree with treating with steroids and antihistamines, but that’s what is being done for now. We may have been slow to put 2 and 2 together, but we all agree the vaccine is the culprit (well, the manufacturer will only say “likely” culprit).

  56. Jan Says:

    Karen, short term treatment as you described should be fine, but I would be very careful before continuing it for long. Treatment with homeopathy would help a great deal. You can get a consult by telephone if you like. Go to the referral list at http://www.dogs4dogs.com/vets Or contact marina at naturalrearing.com. Your vet is currently suppressing symptoms, not treating the cause, and that can be dangerous long term. Homeopathy is inexpensive and can help prevent long term problems.

    Make sure you have written proof from your vet and the manufacturer that your dog should not be vaccinated again. Records get lost and vets move away. Also, the manufacturer should be paying your vet bills. Press for resolution.

  57. Keka Says:

    Hello. I’ve been reading your website with great interest since our dog, Blue, has a recently discovered, critical, immune-mediated disease. He is 7.5 years old, and like many owners posting here, he received “all traditional” vaccinations regularly throughout his life (with a “normal lethargic reaction” after each set of vaccinations). Until now —

    1/16/12: Blue received shots for rabies and DHPPC (distemper, hepatitis, parainfluenza, corona virus).
    2/8/12: Routine pre-op blood work (for a pending knee surgery) showed platelet count of near zero with a diagnosis of ITP (immune-mediated thrombocytopenia). In addition to negative abdominal x-ray and ultraound, Blue received vincristine (1x dose), and prednisone and doxycycline (on-going).
    2/11/12: Blue’s platelets were up to 43 (still low compared to normal 200-900).
    2/17/12: Blue’s platelets were adequate, but his segmented neutrophils (part of the white blood cell count) were critically low (neutropenia). After more negative blood tests, titer tests, and urinalysis, Clavamox was added to his regimen of prednisone and doxycycline.
    Since 2/8/12, he has been very tired, although bright-eyed when alert and happy, with a good appetite and “typical” prednisone reactions (high thirst and frequent urination). We are supposed to take him back on 2/20/12 for follow-up blood work. Who knows what we will find. Needless to say, this is traumatic for all of us.

    After researching your site and others, I am certain these immune-mediated diseases are an adverse reaction to the vaccines. I will not give routine heart worm (we live in the northern part of the midwest). I don’t feel like we have a no choice but to continue on the current immuno-suppressant drugs and antibiotics until we get “normal” blood work back. There are no holistic vets nearby. Any thoughts? Keep your fingers crossed for my Blue. Thank you.

  58. Jan Says:

    Keka, is the same vet who over-vaccinated your dog still treating Blue? (Why did he/she give an adult dog puppy shots, especially coronavirus — which is a nonexistent disease?) Please read http://www.dogs4dogs.com/blog/2009/04/22/no-unnecessary-dog-shots/

    If Blue were mine, I’d contact Dr. Kruesi at http://www.crvetcenter.com He has treated my dog Jiggy for many years; Jiggy has suffered from liver disease for 10 years since a rabies vaccine reaction. He’s quite brilliant and will work by phone. I’ve never met him, but two of my vets use him for tough cases. You send in your dog’s tests and records. I think he’s brilliant.

    His consultation fee is reasonable. Ask about the price of supplements to remedy the condition, which can run into some money. But then, you’re already spending a fortune.

    Another option is a homeopathic regimen prescribed by Dr. Charles Loops at http://www.charlesloopsdvm.com/ He is treating Jiggy whose liver disease has finally turned into cancer. Jiggy is doing well.

    Good luck. I hope this helps. Let me know how it goes.

  59. Tori (and Grace) Says:

    Hi,

    I found your post thru a search. Wish I had read it earlier!

    My maltipoo puppy is 14 weeks old and had her 3rd puppy shot set last Thursday. Saturday she started vomiting and was lethargic. We ended up back at the vet all day requiring fluids, anti-nausea meds, anti-inflammatories, and pain meds :(

    She seemed to be bouncing back but today, one week later, she started vomiting again and is lethargic. Everything else with her seems okay. Is this possibly a vaccine reaction? Or should I be looking other places?

  60. Grace is still feeling poorly :( - Maltese Dogs Forum : Spoiled Maltese Forums Says:

    […] of course last night I googled vaccine reactions and ended up reading this site: Your Dog's Vaccine Reaction: | Truth4Dogs Totally freaked me out. My vet is great but wonder if she will try to pass it off as something […]

  61. Jan Says:

    Hi Tori. Same symptoms? Given no intervening problem, it’s probably the same cause. And when these symptoms disappear, new ones may take their place. Your dog can, but hopefully won’t, experience different reactions over time unless you take action.

    Was your dog given more than parvo and distemper? I fear she was. Maltese are #6 on the list of dogs reacting badly to receiving more than one vaccine (not just one shot) at a time. You might want to read this and please tell others at Spoiled Maltese. http://www.dogs4dogs.com/blog/2009/09/30/vaccinating-small-dogs-risks-vets-arent-revealing/

    Make sure you report these new reactions to your vet. Also, get all the vaccine info and report it to the manufacturer. Your vet should have done this but they seldom do. Sometimes the manufacturer will help with the cost of treatment.

    Now, find a vet trained in homeoopathy. Your vet is treating symptoms without even believing that the vaccines are at fault. How do you cure something you think doesn’t exist??? You need someone to treat the cause: vaccinosis.

    Okay, your dog is likely finished with puppy shots. See http://www.dogs4dogs.com/blog/2009/04/22/no-unnecessary-dog-shots/ I’d get a parvo/distemper blood titer test in two-three weeks. If it comes back positive, your dog likely needs no more vaccination except for rabies. http://www.dogs4dogs.com/blog/2008/10/22/titer-test/ I suggest you have the blood drawn by your vet and sent to hemopet.com A world-renowned expert will read and interpret the result at no extra cost. You only need to do this test once if it come back positive.

    Wait as long as legally possible to get the rabies shot. Read this before you do: http://www.dogs4dogs.com/blog/2010/09/23/rabies-vaccination-12-ways-to-vaccinate-more-safely/ And try to find a holistic vet to give it. You may be able to get a medical exemption depending on where you live and your vet.

    Sorry to give you so much homework! But your pup is worth it!

  62. Keka Says:

    Thanks so much for up the info and this website. I reported the adverse vaccine reaction to my vet, the internist vet school that’s treating Blue, Merck (who offered to pay part of the bills), Pfizer (who offered to report the reaction – gee, thanks!), the USDA, and the FDA. I also signed the Indiana petition requesting a medical exemption from rabies for sick dogs, and donated to the Rabies Challenge Fund.

    Blue’s prognosis on the ITP went from critical, to poor, to now fair because he seems to be responding to the drug therapy. He is suffering some nasty side effects from the drug therapy but we are hopeful that he will make it. We are worried but a little less so now that he made it to day 40 post-diagnosis. Keep your fingers crossed! Thanks again for all of your hard work.

  63. Jan Says:

    Keka, thanks for all your activism and supporting the Rabies Challenge Fund. I’m delighted Merck is pitching in. But Pfizer, boo!

    We wish you and Blue all the luck in the world and are thrilled to hear he’s getting better. If you need any help or referrals, please write again. — Jan

  64. Keka Says:

    Hi Jan,
    A quick note I forgot to mention about Pzifer, which you may already know. Pzifer’s vaccine “immunity guarantee” offers up to $5000 for vet bills if your pet actually contracts the disease you’re trying to prevent (what about payment for life-threatening side effects?). What’s more interesting is the “immunity guarantee” in Pfizer’s leaflet specifically lists up to 4 years immunity for some conditions (despite the annual or 3-year nature of some vaccines) and one year coverage for some vaccines routinely given every six months (bordetella). Link below. Thanks again, Keka

    https://animalhealth.pfizer.com/sites/pahweb/US/EN/PublishingImages/SAB0311008%202011%20Updated%20Detailer%2034-18-11.pdf

  65. Pam Says:

    Hi jan,
    Im so upset at myself. A weekago my dog had anesthisia for dentistry and I asked for his annual shots to be given while he was under. My toy Poodle is age 10. 5 days after, my dogs hind legs dont work well, sissor walking, wobble, they turn in and out-he doesnt have good control, strugggles to walk out to potty and get in potty position. I used all my money to get the procdures done, I live on Social Security, Im freaking out. I couldnt talk to the Vet today(Monday) because he was in surgery all day. I will try again tomorrow. I live on the NW side of Austin Texas outside of its city limits.

  66. Jan Says:

    Pam, don’t be upset at yourself. Be upset at your vet. No 10 year old dog should be getting annual shots. It’s shameful. Puppy shots are for puppies, not senior dogs. http://www.dogs4dogs.com/blog/2009/04/22/no-unnecessary-dog-shots/

    Your dog has serious problems. Your vet is unlikely to be able to help. He probably won’t even admit it has anything to do with the vaccines. You need a vet trained in homeopathy. Check out the referral lists at http://www.dogs4dogs.com/vets

    Here’s the website of a well-known vet in Austin. http://www.alt4animals.com/vaccinations.htm

    If you need a vet to consult with you over the phone, write me again.

    Be sure to report the reaction to your vet and try to get his help to contact the vaccine manufacturer. It’s the least he can do.

  67. Jan Says:

    Keka, thanks for the link. I hadn’t seen it. I wonder why they can’t at least change labels to reflect their guarantees?

  68. Zack Says:

    My wife and I have a 3yr. old dog, a mixed Terrier in which we have adopted about a year and a half ago and was given all the required vaccines needed then. Well, now we thought spring is here and the weather for the ticks is coming around. So, we were foolish enough to go to a mobile vet and give him the vaccine, but not just the one for the ticks but a combo one including the rabies vaccine.
    So, later that evening we noticed Nate (our little joyful Terrier) hurting and not being wanted to get touched or be near us, lost his appetite and yelped if if we tried to pick him up.We got really scared and sad but just tried to give him plenty of water and healthy snacks since he didn’t want his regular food. Now, a week and a half later, he seems to be back to his old self, eating, running and playing around with us, except that where he got the shots we have just noticed that there seems to be a lump.
    So we are just wondering if that lump is normal and if that is something that will go away?

  69. Jan Says:

    Zack, a lump is not normal, but it’s not necessarily a dangerous reaction. Watch it carefully. Measure it. Photograph it. If it’s not gone within a month or two, see a vet about it. In fact, if you can afford to, see a vet now.

    Your dog may seem back to normal but may not be. He got way too many vaccines at once, and surely many he didn’t need. If your dog came from a shelter, he was surely way over-vaccinated then. Then again.

    Please don’t go to a mobile vet. They push vaccines to make money, not to help your dog. You should report your dog’s vaccination reaction, but which vaccine was the problem? And who do you report it to?

    Please, read this about over-vaccination. http://www.dogs4dogs.com/blog/2009/04/22/no-unnecessary-dog-shots/ Nothing will cost you vet bills and shorten your dog’s life sooner than too many shots. I’m glad you’re doing research now. And check out the food he’s eating. http://www.dogs4dogs.com/vets

  70. lucky Says:

    hi Jan,
    I have a 3month old male lhasa apso.He got vaccinated for rabies a week back under the skin on his back.But now i feel a lump on his back when i touch him, i am really scared and don’t know what to do.The lump is not hard and it moves below the skin when touched.It does’nt pain for him when i touch the lump.

  71. Jan Says:

    Lucky, lumps after vaccination are more of a problem for cats who develop cancers more often than dogs, so this advice from the American Veterinary Medical Assoc. should help you to relax:

    It is quite common for a small, firm, painless swelling to form under the skin at the site where a vaccine was injected. The lump is almost always of no consequence and disappears after several weeks. Rarely, however, the swelling may progress to a sarcoma. To be on the safe side, your veterinarian will suggest that you periodically check the vaccination area for several months after vaccination. If you detect a lump, you should contact your veterinarian as soon as possible. Small samples of the lump will be sent to a laboratory for diagnosis if any of the following are true:

    The lump persists for more than three months after vaccination.
    It is larger than two centimeters in diameter (about the size of an olive)
    It is increasing in size one month after vaccination.

    If you have access to a vet who practices homeopathy, you might consult them. Also, be sure to report the lump to your vet.

  72. Keka Says:

    Hi Jan! Quick update on Blue… He is still suffering side effects of drugs needed to treat vaccine-induced thrombocytopenia, but he is only on 0.4mg per kg of prednisone so his prognosis has been moved up to good!

    Just on the off chance you hadn’t heard, the county and and/or state where Dr. Jean Dodds’ Hemopet is located is challenging her tax-free status 20 years after it was granted. Hopefully she will be able to fight it, but we can send good vibes in the meantime.

    Thanks so much for this website! ~Keka

  73. Jan Says:

    Keka, that’s great news. Thanks for letting me know.

    I hadn’t heard that about Hemopet. Do you remember where you heard it? Jean does great work there.

  74. Keka Says:

    Hi Jan. I learned about the Hemopet news on community.dog.forums (outstanding community of people who post on all things dog, including immune-mediated diseases). Then I talked to Dry. Dodds and confirmed. If Hemopet loses the fight, 8 years of back taxes will be due, and likely bankrupt the non-profit business. I really hope that doesn’t happen. The research and vet lab are so important.

  75. Michelle Says:

    Hi, My 9 1/2 yr old JCR got out of the yard and was taken to the local shelter, I had recently moved to a new city 100 miles from where I was and my vet. Scratch was “due” for her rabies shot, she had a 3 yr shot in 4/09. Since they didn’t have her records they gave her, INTRA3, STRONGID, G DA2PP when she came in and since it was 5/12 her rabies was expired so I needed to get her rabies shot. They had a vet there and since I didn’t have a new vet yet I went ahead and let them give it to her.
    No one has never told me that she or any dog could have an adverse reaction to a rabies shot or any other shots and I grew up with dogs and been around them for about 40 yrs. Scratch had the rabies shot Tues. morn by the afternoon she started gagging, acting like she was going to vomit (dry heaves), eating grass, weeds and tree leaves, drinking a lot of water and breathing hard like she does when she gets excited or having an allergy attack. I gave her benedryl, her vet had told me to give her some when she had her allergy attacks several yrs ago. She was up most of the night with all these symtoms which are continuing today, some are worse and now she is very tired and looks miserable. All she wants to do is lay down or go outside and eat grass, weeds and tree leaves. She walks very slow and does not run at all, this is a jack russell!!! She wakes up gagging or wretching and bearly holds her head up, I know the benedryl will make her tired, but she was like this before the I gave it to her. I wanted to try and help her and give her some relief.
    After reading this I am extremely worried and am thinking I may have to take her to the emergency vet. I got her from a local shelter 8 1/2 yrs ago as a b-day present from my late husband and she is part of the family. Even my grandchildren are worried about her. We are given this info to make informed decisions for vaccines for us and our children, to us our pets our family members too and we need to be given this info to make informed decisions for them too!!!

  76. Jan Says:

    Michelle, if it were my dog, I’d rush to the emergency vet. Your dog not only had the rabies shot, she had a bunch of other shots adult dogs don’t need. After you go, please right again. And make sure everything gets recorded in her file and GET A COPY OF THE FILE.

  77. Rita Says:

    HOLY HANNA…..two yrs ago took my Chorkie (chihuahua/yorkie) in for his very first rabies shot. Before I got home (I live less than 5 miles from the vet) he was flopping around in the car and breathing funny….went back out to the vet and they gave him something to counteract the vaccine. 7 hours later the swelling in his face started to go down and within 12 hours he was ale to walk again and seemed fine the following day. A few weeks ago I returned to a new vet thinking that maybe it was a careless mistake at the first veterinary clinic but it’s the law to keep your dog current on their vaccinations. I voiced my concern and they were so good to listen and then they said to premedicate with benedryl and he should be just fine. I premedicted him with the benedryl and went back….asked if I could stay for 10 or 15 minutes just to make sure he would be o.k…..SO VERY GLAD I DID!!! Within just a short time my dog was not breathing well…vomiting, pooping, and flipping out. I screamed, they ran out and picked him up and took him back into the clinical area. I stayed out in the waiting room to clean up the mess he had just made. It took me less than 2 minutes to clean things p and go to find my dog and walked in to find him on the table with oxygen, they were giving him a shot to counteract the vaccine…he was unresponsive, VERY LABORED BREATHING…almost scary…no, it WAS SCARY!! For an hour and a half I sat holding my lifeless dog with an oxygen max over his nose. His gums were pure white, shaking uncontrollably, eyes fully dilated and glassy. They put in an I.V. Which I took him ome with that I.V. In his leg….He was a mess…went 6 days without eating, we couldn’t find him, he was either in a closet, under a sofa or bed, or behind the toilet hiding. Prior to this if I was sitting on the sofa, he was in my lap, if I was in bed, he was beside me….not any more!!! THEN came the seizures….foaming at the mouth, stiff necked, jaw locked and legs locked then after a few minutes SHAKING UNCONTROLLABLY. The vet clinic has contacted Phizer, I have called Pfizer…the refuse to talk to me. The vet says he has NEVER seen a reaction this bad and has asked Phizer to help with the anti seizure medication for the rest of my dogs life….I would also like for Pfizer to reimburse me for the huge vet bill I paid to keep my dog alive after the rabies vaccination…they won’t respond. I want my old dog back….the one that was my constant companion, not the one I can’t find!!!! I’ve heard that Lyssin is something I could give him…can’t seem to find it…we are in a rural area and can’t find it on the Internet either! Anyone have some suggestions of how to get my baby back???

  78. Jan Says:

    Rita, Lyssin, as I understand it, can be given before and during vaccination, but reactions vary and so do remedies. I strongly suggest you consult a holistic vet. Your dog has had a serious reaction and needs help to avoid further damage. Check http://www.dogs4dogs.com/vets for a list of holistic vets and vets trained in homeopathy. If you can find someone who does acupuncture, that may help with the seizures. If you can’t find a vet in your area, I can recommend one who will consult by phone. Find my contact info at http://www.dogs4dogs.com/contact.

    If it were my dog, I’d write a letter to Pfizer with all the details. Send it by registered mail. Include all the details, including your vet’s contact information, medical facts, product information, your contact information, what happened when you contacted them, etc. Send it to the head of their veterinary vaccines division and elsewhere within the company. Be factual and businesslike. Copy the USDA and AVMA. Make sure your vet has contacted the USDA about this. If you can, ask an attorney to help. And ask your vet to help.

    If you have a local news outlet, tell them about this. Make noise. You know what they say about squeaky wheels.

    But first, get some good health information for your dog. Let me know what happens.

  79. SueW Says:

    I have a question, Can you detox dogs of heavy metals like humans? Thanks

  80. Jan Says:

    SueW: yes. Both of my dogs have received homeopathy for that purpose.

  81. Katiann Says:

    We have had our puppy Deimus for about three weeks now, and have had two series of shots (8 and 10 wk) since his first shots (with us) we have brought him in multiple times, (changing to a new reliable vet) and after his first shots his backlymph nodes are swollen and has had diarrhea, he was put on rice and chicken for about two weeks, he is not on normal dog food after slowly introducing it, and today he had his ten week shots, the area in his shoulder where he got not of them is now swollen, I’ve noticed his lymph nodes by his neck below his ears are now swollen, his diarrhea is back (normal colored now though) and he’s gagging or hacking every once in a while. Oh, and around when he was out on the chicken and rice he was also given flagyl and a test to see why his back lymph nodes were swollen, we were told the results were “reactionary” a few hours ago I called the emergency vet and he said the swelling is normal, and the lymph nodes have nothing to do with the shots. I gave him a Benadryl and it seemed to help a little with the pain, but now he’s sore again. I’m starting to struggle with this a lot now, I feel like no one is helping they’re just saying it’ll pass. Is there anything I can do?

  82. Jan Says:

    Katiann, you wrote: we were told the results were “reactionary.” Reactionary to what?

    Sometimes a vaccine can cause a reaction similar to the disease it’s supposed to protect against. Which vaccines did he he get each time?

    Also, where do you live? Maybe I know someone who can help.

  83. Katiann Says:

    I live just west of Chicago. And he got bordetella, DHLP (3rd) and StrongID? And when I was told it was reactionary, she said it could be an infection somewhere In his body, or cancer. But he only had these symptoms since his 8wk shots. His swelling is down and no soreness anymore. He hasn’t pooped yet, but I gave him just another 1/2 a Benadryl just to make sure all is well.

  84. Katiann Says:

    This is all just so frustrating, bc in the three weeks I’ve had him I’ve spent about 500 trying to figure all this out, just being led around by my vet (he’s been seen by two, after the first one worked me for more money I switched to a clinic I used to work for, but it’s a new vet since I’ve been there.)

  85. Amber Says:

    I took my dog to be vaccinated on July 21. She had an immediate reaction to her rabies vaccine in the guise of a great bog medium apple sized lump on her butt. It doesn’t seem to bother her, but it also isn’t getting any smaller. We took her to her regular vet to get it checked out and he insisted it couldn’t be from the vaccine and tried to get us to let him remove it and get it biopsied. He shaved it and drew blood which gave no indicator for cancer but still insisted we needed to let him remove it. I refused, because there is no reason to think it is anything other than what I said. I have had animals for 30 years and most of them have lived to be very old. I am not stupid. Anyway, now the poor thing looks like she has grown a testicle on her rump where the vet shaved it. I was wondering if anyone had ever heard of a reaction like that before and had any advice about how to help it go down.

  86. Jan Says:

    Amber, get a new vet. This is a common reaction to a rabies vaccine. See http://www.dogs4dogs.com/truth4dogs and http://www.rabieschallengefund.org Your vet is either poorly informed or doesn’t want to admit that the vaccine he gave caused a problem.

    The lump will either go away on it’s own in a week or month or so, or could be a sign of a bigger problem, although this is rare. The world’s top expert says to get it biopsied if it’s still there in a month or two, or gets larger. If your dog’s health declines, or behavior changes, see a KNOWLEDGEABLE vet. If that’s the case, write again and I’ll give you some options on what to do.

    In the meantime, please report the reaction: http://truth4pets.org/reporting-reactions/

    Also read this article on questions to ask before vaccinating. http://truth4pets.org/question-before-vaccination/ And tell your friends!

  87. Kim C, Chicago , IL Says:

    In 2004 my then 4 year old 10lb Rat Terrier Harry had his annual shots. within days i returned home to find his face swollen like as if he had the mumps. Two months followed of swelling in different parts of his body. Legs, tail and face. Thyroid crashed and numerous other things occurred. $4000 later with the unofficial diagnosis of Auto immune disease, i took him off all the prednisone, refused thyroid meds and other drugs that were simply doing nothing for him. To battle the inflammation I began a high dose of fish oil, took him off commercial food, began home cooking and had the thyroid re-tested to find it had returned to normal levels. About 6 months after the episode i had him titer tested for parvo/distemper. Only to find the titer was sky high for parvo at over 16,000 ! Looking back there were site reactions to Rabies and the eye infection that lasted 2 months after a rabbis shot. the alleged diagnosis was allergies. Well he never had allergies. NO vet wants to admit it was all due to over-vaccination. My vet however was responsive to my requests for titers and changed his opinions after seeing the results of the titers. Years following I continued to titer test. the parvo came down to 4,000 for several years. the rabis titer was at the top of protective immunity as well. Harry has not had any vaccinations since and likely never will unless i see an abnormally low titer then i will have to consider what do to. After stopping all vaccinations and placing him on a healthy home cooked diet he is near 10 years of age with thankfully no health issues. No one will ever be able to tell me this was not an over-vaccination issue. Since years passed with no reoccurrence of any of the prior symptoms it was clear that was the issue. So word of advice all, spend the money on titers and refuse vaccinations if they are high. Support the Rabies challenge fund. Help educate your own vet with the results in hand. If they are non-responsive go to another vet! I continue to monitor new studies regarding the immunity levels in these vaccinations and one thing is clear they lack conclusive evidence of the immunity longevity and its much longer than ever realized. the more its made aware the better chance we have in protecting our furry loved ones. titer testing is money well spent!

  88. Jan Says:

    Kim, thanks for sharing your story. I’m happy you had a happy ending.

    You might want to check out our new not-for-profit website all on vaccination. http://www.truth4pets.org

    I have also posted a petition on Change.org. Each signature will send an email to officials in the veterinary community asking them, among other things, to start stop enabling over-vaccination and to give us access to reaction reports. Please sign it and share it far and wide. http://www.change.org/petitions/veterinarians-fully-inform-us-before-vaccinating-our-dogs-and-cats

  89. Kim C, Chicago , IL Says:

    Jan,
    Thank you . I have already signed the petition and circulated it to as many contacts as possible. I also support and follow the Rabies challenge fund ! This is a change we have to make for our pets health. Thank you for initiating , educating and supporting this much needed cause!

    All the best!

  90. Keka Says:

    Hi Jan,
    I wanted to let you know that Blue is almost two months off of meds after a five month ordeal with immune-mediated thrombocytopenia – a horrible condition he acquired after his ‘routine/annual’ vaccines. I want to thank you again for this amazing website and the information for reporting to the govt and drug makers. I just signed your petition too. I never sent a letter to Pfizer, only reported it by phone – so I will do that right after I finalize with Merck. I value this site and your work so much. Still keeping paws crossed for Blue’s health, but he’s getting back to his old 115# self. Best, Keka

  91. Jan Says:

    Keka, thanks so much for getting back to me with the great news! I’m so happy for you both.

    Thanks so much for signing the petition. I hope you asked your friends to as well. I’d also love for you to write your story. http://truth4pets.org/tell-your-story/ Or maybe put a mini story with a photo on our Pet Vaccine Reactions Facebook page. http://www.facebook.com/pages/Pet-Vaccine-Reactions/460252784008232 And please “Like” us. We’re trying to spread the word about what can happen.

    I don’t hear good news very often. This is great!

  92. Linda Says:

    My small dog had shots a week ago. Has lost her zest. She is 10 yrs old and behaved like a puppy, full of spunk and energy until she got her shots. She has been panting, limping, appears to be depressed. She will seem better in the morning but loses her energy quickly. Is ther any way to reverse the side effects?

  93. Jan Says:

    Linda, you need a vet trained in homeopathy to help your dog recover. Even after she seems okay, some damage may had been done. Many will do phone consults, but one you can see in person is best. If you need a phone consult from a vet write me again. They are surprisingly inexpensive. Also see the links here: http://truth4pets.org/vets/

    Why would your dog get “shots” at 10 years of age? What shots did she get? You need a new vet who won’t just jab without thinking. Please read this: http://www.dogs4dogs.com/blog/2009/04/22/no-unnecessary-dog-shots/ There’s a whole website of information from experts — videos, reports, articles — at http://www.truth4pets.org/

    If you can’t afford a holistic vet, here’s some more advice from a vet friend’s article. Be sure to read this carefully as some of the advice (like vitamin D) is advised for people, not pets. http://truth4pets.org/2012/05/preventing-vaccine-reactions/#more-43 This is not a substitute for vet care.

    Please report the reaction in detail, in writing, to your current vet. It’s important to get the information into your dog’s file. Then get a copy of the file. You may want to ask for a rabies exemption next time around. Also report the reaction to the drug company. http://truth4pets.org/reporting-reactions/

    Let me know how it’s going.

  94. Mary Says:

    We took our 3 pomeranians to get their shots this afternoon at a well known pet store that provides a vaccination clinic on weekends. Our one pomeranian (Fozzie) was acting unusually quiet, and sleepy, within a short period of time after he received his vaccinations. He received rabies and 5 or 6 in one (DHPP +/-4L) and a heartworm test. The veterinarian told us to come back in two weeks for the bordetella. By the time we got home I started noticing that his eyes appeared to look a little swollen, and he was rubbing his face like crazy on the floor. Within a good 15 to 20 minutes his face was getting so swollen his eyes looked like slits. Off to the emergency vet we went, where they gave him a shot of steroids, and told us he must be having an allergic reaction to the shots.They told us to give him 12.5 mg of benadryl every 8 hours for the next 24-48 hrs. After reading all the different reactions that can still possibly happen, I doubt I will be getting any sleep tonight. I will be watching him constantly. Thank you for providing so much information about the reactions to what I now know are totally unnecessary vaccinations.

  95. Lisa Lahey Says:

    Hi Jan, my Yorkie hasn’t been to the vet in about 2 yrs because I’m petrified about them pushing me on vaccines. I lost my last Yorkie at age 5 at the vet’s office due to anesthesia issues. So this time around I’m very protective and more educated. I now have to take him in to have a few cysts looked at to make sure they’re not a dangerous growth and I know they’re going to push all the vaccines. My state mandates the rabies, so I have no choice and I’ll do a detox prep & following. My question is…can they push the 5 in 1 combo on me? We’ve kept up all his vaccines till I got educated and stopped 2 yrs ago. His lifestyle dictates to me he doesn’t need any of them. He’s never boarded anywhere, we don’t go to doggy parks, he’s home even when we travel we get a sitter. I’m looking for confirmation that I have every right to say “NO” to the combo. Thanks so much Jan.

  96. Jan Says:

    Lisa, the only legally mandated vaccine is rabies. The rest are optional and more often than not unnecessary for adult dogs who’ve had their puppy shots. Please read these Questions to Ask Before Vaccinating Your Pet: http://truth4pets.org/question-before-vaccination/ You can learn more about titer testing (to test immunity) as well. My advice (though I’m not a vet) is that if your vet wants your little adult dog to get 5 or 6 unnecessary vaccines at once, run, do not walk, to find another vet.

    This should help you decide: Read this article about the special dangers of vaccinating small dogs http://www.dogs4dogs.com/blog/2009/09/30/vaccinating-small-dogs-risks-vets-arent-revealing/

    If that doesn’t give you the confidence to say no, watch my new 3-minute video on vaccine reactions. http://www.truth4pets.org/vaccine-reactions Here’s a link to just the video if you want to post it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nZ5m5uzzac to help warn your friends.

    I’m so happy that you stopped to learn more before you went to your vet’s office. You’re a good Yorkie mom.

  97. Lisa Lahey Says:

    Thank you so very, very much Jan. I truly appreciate all your advice and what you are doing here to help inform and protect. Sadly, I had to learn the hard way the first time around and paid the ultimate price. A lesson I’ll never forget. Thanks to your feedback I now have the ultimate in confidence to say “no” now. I certainly will post your video as well. I’ve also sent a letter to my local senator’s office regarding adding our state (GA) to the exception list for rabies, so far only 16 states have agreed to validate the waiver. Let’s win this fight! Warmly, Lisa

  98. Jan Says:

    Lisa, I’m happy to help. And thanks for spreading the word. BTW, one vaccine activist says, when prompted by her doctor to vaccinate her children, “not today, thanks.” It’s a little less confrontational than just no!. Still, I’d reconsider any vet who even pushed shots on adult dogs. Bad vet! Bad!

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  100. Joyce Says:

    On Monday – Oct 25, 2013 (and this was 2-3 weeks after getting a Rabies Vac. – Sancho – our 5 year old Chihuahua mix was laying on top of back of the sofa. My daughter pushed the cushion, he growled and jumped to the seat of the sofa and then off (as he always does) and when he reached the floor, he yelped a high pitch yelp.

    That evening he didn’t want to really hang out with us (my husband and I) in the living room. He stayed and slept in his kennel and seemed kind of sleepy. I figured he was just getting used to the autumn air.

    The next morning (Tue) my husband put his collar and leash on him at about 6:15am and he went out and did his morning business etc. All seemed well. He ate his food, begged for treats at the breakfast table etc.

    After taking my daughter to school (8:15 am) I went to put his collar on him again and he yelped and bore his teeth at me as if to say, “No you don’t”. Yet he looked as if he wanted to go on his walk. I tried again and again. He would not let me. I am afraid I terrorized him because I put my husband’s gardening gloves on and thought – if he bites me, it won’t hurt. He seemed to bite at the gloves and feel remorseful about doing so. He repeatedly tried to bite me while trying to get a muzzel or his collar and leash on. I did not give him a walk that morning. When my husband came home that night, he put Sancho’s collar on with absolutely no problem. Sancho seemed to be “in and out” of his normal personality all day. He never lost his appetite. But he DID look wary when I wanted to give him a treat with my hand.

    Wednesday: My husband put his collar and leash on in the early morning and left it on, so I could give him a good walk. As he walked, he seemed like he wanted to pull and walk very hard and fast. Normally, he stops a million times, sniffing trees and marking everything. This time, all he wanted to do was walk and walk and not stop. He actually jumped into my lap after that and let me take his leash off. That afternoon, he seemed to be returning to normal. I was so relieved. That night, he tried to do all of his regular funny things. – sit with us on the couch etc, but yet, he seemed not to be himself – sometimes with a face that had a far away look.

    Thursday : a repeat of yesterday. Yet he seems lethargic and sleepy. Sometimes his face would look like a different dog altogether.

    Friday: He was completely strange again. He would NOT let me even take the leash off. That day and night, he seemed more lethargic than ever.

    Saturday (today) in the early morning, he tried to bite my husband when he tried to put the collar on. He is NOT himself and seems to be sad.

    The whole while this has been happening, he has never lost his appetite or desire for treats. On Tuesday he did have some loose stool. He seems to want to do all of the funny things he normally does with us, but there is something stopping him – he doesn’t feel good. We used to give him lots of carrots for a treat, but not now, because we suspected that he had a gas problem.
    (the above was written for our vet)

    Jump now to February 28th 2013: Since January, with the help of mozzarella cheese sticks, I’ve been able to get Sancho’s collar (connected to his leash) over his head (it is a new semi-choke chain, but cannot choke him, because it it 3/4 nylon strap – like a regular collar) Anyway, we’ve been taking our daily walks and I’ve been able to get his collar on and off him while he is being given the cheese. All has been well, and then, today, he became “strange” again. — with the odd behavior stated above. He seems to be ultra paranoid and walking low to the ground in a panic state with his ears back. I was NOT able to get his collar off because he kept snapping his head to the side to try to bite me. He seemed totally panicked and wild. I left him alone and he is now laying in his kennel sleeping.

    All of this to say,… I’m realizing that shortly before ALL of this strange behavior happened, Sancho had been given his Rabies Vac. This time, instead of getting it at the vet, Sancho got it from a Luv My Pet group at Petco. Could it have been a bad batch? What happens when your dog gets an adverse reaction like this? Does it just go away after time? Or is this going to be his new personality? It is dangerous to have him like this. We have an 11 year old daughter in the house.

    Please help if you can! Sincerely, Joyce

  101. Joyce Says:

    OH,… PS to the above (and sorry this is so lengthy) My vet totally checked him all out and there seemed to be nothing physically wrong with him. She did a blood work up and all was normal. However he has NOT had any xrays or MRIs taken.

    Thank you

  102. Jan Says:

    Joyce, your vet should have recognized this as vaccine-induced illness. Read this: http://www.dogs4dogs.com/rabies%20vaccinosis.htm

    Please do two things. 1. Report the reaction to the vaccine maker: http://truth4pets.org/reporting-reactions/
    2. Contact a vet trained in homeopathy who will likely understand how to help get the dog you love back. Here’s a list: http://truth4pets.org/vets/ In particular, you might try Dr. Loops or Dr. Chambreau. They can treat your dog by phone. Or check the referral list to find someone near you.

    I doubt if this will go away on it’s own. I also doubt that x-rays or an MRI will help. You need a vet who understands the problem.

  103. jan Says:

    Hi, my dog had both his bordatella and lepto vaccines on Wednesday April 17. That evening, he seemed a bit disoriented and wouldn’t sit when given this command (which he always does). Thursday morning after eating, he vomited. All of Thursday, he was moping around. I called the vet and he said, “it doesn’t sound like it is from the vaccines”, “just keep an eye on him”. Friday he still lacked energy, but, seemed a little better. He was able to have small meals and hold them doen. All of Saturday, he seemed to be back to normal, but he just vomited 3 piles. Could this be vaccine related and should I take him in for a check up? Please help!

  104. Jan Says:

    Jan, lepto and bordatella are two of the vaccines most likely to cause reactions. They are also likely vaccines your dog didn’t need. Your vet either isn’t informed or isn’t truthful. Long run, find another vet. Now, you must report the reaction to your vet and the USDA. http://truth4pets.org/reporting-reactions/ Please read http://www.dogs4dogs.com/blog/2011/12/17/why-vets-dont-recognize-vaccine-reactions/ and http://www.dogs4dogs.com/blog/2010/12/02/what-to-do-when-your-dog-has-a-vaccine-reaction/ and http://truth4pets.org/question-before-vaccination/

    This could be serious or could pass. It’s hard to know just yet. Keep an eye on your dog and go to emergency if he gets worse. Good luck.

  105. Jan Says:

    Jan, remember, you know your dog better than anyone else. If you’re worried, go to the vet’s office.

  106. jan Says:

    Thanks fo your help! He seems back to normal today, but I am still keeping a close eye on him! I did tell my vet, he didn’t believe the vaccines were to blame. I will be searching for a new vet, and will also be reporting this to the USDA.

  107. Theresa Says:

    Is it possible for a vaccine reaction to happen later in life to a dog who has had no previous reactions? Our dog had vaccines about two weeks ago, along with an exam for a sprained front wrist, and a pyoderma on his rear right leg. A few days after the vaccines, the dog had ataxia, difficulty getting up using his rear right leg, trouble walking, and trouble climbing the stairs. He had no previous issues of this. We’re taking him to a neurologist today at the recommendation of the vet. I’m wondering if I should explore this further with the neurologist. Our dog is a 7 year old golden.

    I already lost a cat to Vaccinations, I don’t want to lose another animal !

  108. Cassie Keller Says:

    Dear Jan,

    I recently moved in with my fiance and his mom to save money for a while and I have a 1 year old daughter and another baby on the way. My fiance has a beagle that was bought in a pet shop, so she was poorly bred in the first place. When Aspen, the beagle, got her rabies vaccination she had a very high fever all through the night and they say she has never been the same since. She is around 10 years old now so the vaccination happened quite a few years ago. She is very aggressive to the other dogs in the house and also to all of us. My daughter is now crawling and starting to walk and when she gets to close to aspen the dog starts growling and has even lunged at her once. We try to keep them separated but Aspen is used to having the run of the house. Aspen also seems to have digestive problems and yelps very loudly whenever she is touched unless it is light petting. My question is that because it has been so long since the vaccination and the dog has lived with these side effects for this long, is there still any way to try to reverse the effects? We don’t want to put her down unless it is absolutely necessary but we are just about at the end of our list of ideas to keep the baby and us safe from her aggression.

    Thanks, Cassie

  109. Jan Says:

    Cassie, what a dilemma. Oddly, Beagles are the dogs least likely to have vaccine reactions. They are used to test new vaccines. Of course, that doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. Any dog or person can experience a reaction.

    There are vets who can treat this problem. Whether it will work or not is a guess. If it were my dog, I’d contact Dr. Charles Loops or Dr. Christina Chambreau. Find their contact info at http://www.truth4pets.org/vets. Also check the vet referral lists for vets trained in homeopathy. Maybe one will be in your area.

    Good luck.

  110. Jan Says:

    Theresa, how did it go with the neurologist?

  111. Kim Says:

    Hello, My Cane Corso at 2 months had her first dhpp and the next day started limping and not posturing correctly on front right leg. Xrays show nothing. After her second injection containing dhlpp the limping became worsened and her eyes were goopy and drooping. She saw an Orho yesterday who cannot find explanation either. Breeder and I both feel vaccine related. I cannot afford a holistic vet at this point after seeing 3 vets already this month for the leg. I just would like someone to advise me how much Thuja and Milkthistle to give her to see if I can detox her and see if any improvement. Thank you for any help at all.

  112. Jan Says:

    Kim, I agree. It’s likely a reaction to the vaccine. Please report the reaction to the drug manufacturer. http://truth4pets.org/reporting-reactions/ Tell them you’ve seen three vets and need financial help. Be insistent. Read this about why vets don’t recognize reactions. http://www.dogs4dogs.com/blog/2011/12/17/why-vets-dont-recognize-vaccine-reactions/

    Your pup likely needed the parvo and distemper vaccines but not the other two. Complain to your vet, especially since the first vaccine caused problems.

    Please read: http://truth4pets.org/question-before-vaccination/

    I’m neither a vet nor a homeopath, and can’t advise you on the Milk Thistles although most label doses are for a 150 lb person. You can likely decide how much to give from that. The thuja may or may not be needed. After the fact, homeopathy is given by symptoms. You don’t just automatically give it. To do so can cause problems.

  113. Nicole Says:

    I took a litter of perfectly healthy puppies (6 1/2 wks) in for their first shots 2 days ago. They were given a combo shot. The next morning one of them started throwing up and now has a jelly like stool. This morning another one of them started throwing up. I called the vet and was told it could be a reaction, but its could also be that they were sick with no symptoms and the shots pushed the symptoms out. They want to charge a lot of money to come in and find the source. I am unfortunately all tapped out of money because of the vet bills I had for their mom. I am heart broken and don’t know what to do.

  114. Jan Says:

    Nicole, 6 1/2 weeks is way too young to vaccinate. And a combo shot was the worst thing possible.

    Before you vaccinate again, please read http://truth4pets.org/question-before-vaccination/ and look at this vaccination protocol: http://dogs4dogs.com/puppy-shots

    When you decide to breed, you owe it to the puppies to give them the best chance of a healthy life. Please learn as much as you can.

    Exactly which vaccines did your puppies get?

    Short term diarrhea is not unusual. Continuing diarrhea can be dangerous. Puppies need to retain their food. You need to report the reaction to the manufacturer of the drug and ask them how to proceed. Your vet chose to vaccinate your dogs too young and should give follow-up care at no cost. Certainly, the vet should give you advice over the phone. Your vet says it may not be a reaction because it’s easier for him/her to believe that. It was your vet’s responsibility to make sure to not vaccinate a sick pup. Did the vet do a good health check before vaccinating? If not, report the vet to your state board.

    Be an activist! Get mad!

  115. Dale Brown Says:

    Hello and thank you so much for all that you do here. I stumbled upon this site late last night/early morning while “seeking relief” for my dog. It is alarming to me the number of people who have suffered from the same issues I’m currently having. I have (had?) a perfectly healthy 3 year old Boxer that needed a very simple laser surgery for a small (pee size) growth on the tip of his right ear. I was informed that before I could have the surgery that he, Rosko, would first have to have his annual vaccinations, which included the Bordetella and Rabies vaccinations at the same time. Long story short, his ear looks great…but my spunky boxer now has a “virus” of some sort that they cannot pin point. So, they put him on an antihistamine and an antibiotic “just in case”. Its been a week since his surgery. He has become very nervous, lethargic, has lost his appetite for nearly everything, has significant bouts with “reverse sneezing” and, for the last 2 days, has been blowing massive amounts of mucous out of his nose. All of this began within one to two days of his mega dose of vaccinations. The vets response? “I’m sure it has nothing to do with the vaccines. He likely developed an irritation from the anesthetic tube.” What a crock. The bottom line is this, I was NEVER informed of ANY potentially adverse reactions to these ridiculous doses of vaccines! And now I have to spend more money, time, and heartache finding a more informed and holistic veterinarian that can, hopefully, return my Rosko Boy back to some state of normalcy.

    And to think that he is in this jam because I took him to the vet (believing at the time it was the responsible thing to do) for a small, simple growth on his ear that needed basic cosmetic surgery. Never again….

    Any suggestions you can make specific to Rosko’s reactions would be greatly appreciated. In the mean time, I will continue to educate myself on this site.

  116. Jan Says:

    Hi Dale. You’re now a member of a very large, unhappy crowd of people with vaccine damaged dogs.

    First, fire that vet and tell him/her why. Dogs should never get rabies and bordetella at the same time and should never be vaccinated when they’re having surgery. Why give an antibiotic just in case? This is why we have such a problem with antibiotic resistance. This vet knows nothing about treating reactions

    Find out exactly which vaccines were given and report the reaction. http://truth4pets.org/reporting-reactions/

    Before you even consider more vaccinations, other than rabies, please read this: http://truth4pets.org/question-before-vaccination/ There is no such thing anymore as “annual vaccinations” except those given by ill-formed vets.

    Find a holistic vet to treat the problem. This is your best chance for recovery. http://www.truth4pets.org/vets

    Tell your friends what can happen!

  117. dale brown Says:

    Thank you, Jan, for your very quick response. And,yes, I will certainly join in and share with every dog owner I know about what has happened (and I know alot of them!).

    So thankful to have found this helpful website. Please continue the wonderful effort.

  118. Kristen Says:

    Hi..I have an 8 week old min pin. His name is Zeus, he is an amazing dog that melts your heart the moment you meet him. He has always been a really good dog, he rarely barks and only wines to tell you he needs to go outside or he is hungry. Well, last Thursday we took him in to get his vaccinations. Then on Sunday morning at 4:00am he woke me up winning. I took him out, fed him..I tried everything he finally fell asleep around 1:30 in the afternoon. By 2:00 he had his first seizure, he had three within the hour. We took him to the emergency vet and they couldn’t tell us anything. Monday morning at 3 he started winning again at 5 he had another seizure. He ended up having 8 within a 24 hour period. He is such a healthy, playful dog. Today is Tuesday he has had 14 seizures, we’ve had him at doggy er, and his vet twice. They have taken xray’s, done all the bid work, sugar levels, etc. Everything keeps coming back normal. I’m terrified I’m going to lose my baby, I have a strong feeling this came from the vaccines, but no-one will admit it. Parse if anyone knows how to help Zeus stop having this seizures let me know. It’s heartbreaking. Can the vaccines be cleaned out of his system? If so, how long does it take, and who can do it? I really appreciate anyone who can please help my Zeus.

  119. Emily Says:

    My Bichon Frise was vaccinated over a month ago and within days stopped eating then drinking and then she slept for 2 weeks. I took her to the vet and she had to be rehydrated but he said the tests were normal and gave antibiotics. I asked him if she could be ill from the vaccines and he said no and demanded $1300 to investigate what was wrong with her. I didn’t have $1300 so I had to take her home and I syringed water into her and rubbed canned food onto her teeth. After about 2-3 weeks she seemed to get better and then she would sleep for days or she would be very hyper and very aggressive even attacking my other dog and me. It has been over a month and every vet I have called has said it could not be from vaccines. My sweet girl is gone she is not the same. One day she will seem fine, playful and happy and others she will sleep, vomit and not eat. Sometimes when I pick her up she shrieks and or bites me. She will be sleeping and all of sudden wake up and attack whoever happens to be near her. I am devastated and just want someone to help my girl, I don’t want to lose her please help!

  120. Jan Says:

    Emily, most vets refuse to believe that vaccines cause reactions. This protects their conscience from all the damage they do. http://www.dogs4dogs.com/blog/2011/12/17/why-vets-dont-recognize-vaccine-reactions/

    You already have my advice from the article on What to Do When Your Dog Has a Vaccine Reaction. I urge you to contact a vet trained in homeopathy. http://www.truth4pets.org/vets If you write back and tell me where you live, I might know someone who can help. Don’t just think this will pass. It already hasn’t. Even a phone consult will help and won’t be expensive. You can try Dr. Loops at http://www.charlesloopsdvm.com He should be able to help.

    Make sure you report the reaction. If a rabies vaccine was involved, make sure it was in your dog’s file. http://truth4pets.org/reporting-reactions/

    Good luck.

  121. Denise Says:

    Jan –

    Thank you for the post. My 9 yr old labs all had their 3 yrs shots. One is currently undergoing another treatment so he’s yet to have his but one of the other three seems to have a reaction. At the end of last month, they had their shots. A few days later, my 100lb dog got into the trash and had some chicken bones from wings. For two weeks he didn’t care to eat and I blamed it on the trash. He lost some weight but again, I thought it was because he wasnt eating (his brother has a contagious sickness that the other three could have likely caught which causes them to have diarrhea and lose weight). He’s gradually eating again but four weeks later, he’s eating about 2 cups a day compared to his typical 4. Two days ago, I noticed the very labored breathing. Just now, I noticed when he falls asleep, his breathing is more relaxed and smooth. Just ten minutes before I noticed this, I still thought it was the bones. All of a sudden I thought maybe it’s the rabies shot..which lead me to run a search. The other two dogs seem to be okay but I think he was already sick (his thyroids are like rocks and he’ll randomly feel warm w/a fever). What can I do to reverse these effects? How do I get it covered? My vet never told me the side effects of vaccines. I never thought about it before, but I won’t get shots, why would I think it’s okay for my dog? :/ Thank you for your help! I’m in central Illinois near Peoria if that helps. THANK YOU!

  122. Jan Says:

    Denise, you’ll need a vet who understands and knows how to treat vaccine reactions. Check the referral lists for holistic and homeopathic vets at http://www.truth4pets.org/vets If you can’t find one near you, write again and I’ll give you the names of some vets who do phone consults.

    Conventional vets pretend that vaccines are safe. You should have been told that vaccines can cause reactions. Get another vet!

  123. Keka Says:

    Hello Jan! I wanted to update you on our dog, Blue. He got ITP/IMT (zero platelets!) in Feb 2012 at age 8.5 because of vaccine reaction, and he would have died but for a very lucky, unrelated blood test that discovered the ITP/IMT. Thanks to your website, I reported the reaction to the manufacturers, FDA and USDA, and even got some vet bills reimbursed. I’m happy to report Blue is still with us, running around in the snow, and he just recovered from a tooth infection/ extraction last week. We now get titer testing through http://www.hemopet.org. I can’t thank you enough for this website. Happy new year!

  124. Jan Says:

    Keka, that’s such great news. Thanks so much for letting me know. And please tell your friends about the dangers of vaccination. There’s a ton of information to help on my other website: http://www.truth4pets.org

    Wishing you and your dog a wonderful and healthy new year.

  125. robert libby Says:

    rabbies shot a week ago .now lumps on face and top of head..one is a rash..getting bigger .loosing hair..10 yr lab ..never been issue before..we on fixed income ..and worse .we broke right now ..very worried..need help and advise..no fever ..drinking and eating fine ..swelling seems to be moving closer to mouth area ..not gd..pls help

  126. Jan Says:

    Robert, you MUST report the vaccine reaction in detail to the vet who gave the vaccine IMMEDIATELY and you must get a copy of the report. You will need to get your dog exempted from the vaccine in the future. This is vital. Your dog is having an extreme reaction. Tell the vet you were not informed that this could happen and maybe he/she will treat for free. I’m afraid your dog will die otherwise.

    Tell the vet to immediately report the reaction to the drug manufacturer. Ask the vet to ask them to pay for treatment. Take photos. http://truth4pets.org/reporting-reactions/ Then you should call them as well. If they aren’t helpful, call the media. Make a stink.

    Your dog is in serious trouble. If you can’t get to a vet, call and ask them about giving Benadryl and how much to give. Your dog needs much more than that, but maybe it will help a little. Get help!!!!

  127. Ashley Says:

    Hi! My dog Maggie received
    her rabies vac on Friday and
    since then has become
    lethargic, had wandering
    lameness, started refusing
    food and water, and then
    convulsions.Weve been to the vet/ er 3
    times now and no one has
    considered the fact that this all
    started from that shot. There’s
    major swelling at the injection
    site, as well as she woke up
    the other day appearing to me
    to be mimicking the disease
    itself. Her eyes were scary and
    she didnt recognize us at first.
    She went from completely
    being unable to walk for days
    to running all over the yard self
    destructing by eating and
    ripping apart everything she’s
    gotten her paws on with these
    beady bloodshot eyes. But
    then snapped out of it that
    afternoon and now sometimes
    shes my maggie bear for at
    least a few moments, and
    others i have no clue who she
    is. I have little money at this
    point and am running out of
    time with the way my dog has
    been progressing.Shes an 8
    month old German Shepard. I
    need advice every vet we’ve
    seen seems not to care at all. I
    don’t have endless money to
    spend on all these vet and er
    visits to be told there’s nothing
    wrong, she’s an aggressive
    breed, and she’s going through
    puberty. I love my dog very
    much and haven’t slept in days
    because im so worried and feel
    guilty i was unaware of what
    vaccinations can potentially
    cause.
    I just want someone to listen to me and believe what I’m saying.
    I know my dog like I know my children I’ve had her since she was
    7 weeks old. I also took her back to the vet that administered the injection and she said the giant knot is in the”vicinity” of the rabies shot given however that it is more than likely caused by bumping into something. Im reaching out to anyone who may help
    me. I reached out to several holistic vets all over the country that all tell me she’s experiencing something called vaccinosis. I just want someone who truly cares about animals to please help our dog.

  128. Jan Says:

    Ashley, of course this is a vaccine reaction. Your vet who says it isn’t is trying to protect himself, or is grossly uninformed. The idea of a lump being caused by a bump and not a known vaccine injection is ridiculous. All your dog’s symptoms are classic. Here are two articles that may explain things: http://www.dogs4dogs.com/blog/2011/10/02/vaccination-reactions-can-mimic-disease-symptoms/ and http://www.dogs4dogs.com/blog/2011/12/17/why-vets-dont-recognize-vaccine-reactions/

    Get copies of your dog’s file. Also, get all the info you have on the vaccine. Tell them you want the “package insert.” They may balk, not wanting to take responsibility. When they buy the vaccine, they get the insert. You can probably also find it online on the manufacturer’s website. When you’re armed with knowledge, call the manufacturer and insist they pay for all the treatment. One vet who may back you up is Dr. Dodds at hemopet.com. She’s an expert on the vaccine. Try to convince your own vet to join your fight. It will make it easier.

    If your dog got other vaccines at the time, by other manufacturers, you’ll have a bigger battle, but try anyway.

    Your dog needs homeopathy if he is to get back to normal. I’d contact Dr. Loops or any of the other vets at http://truth4pets.org/vets/ Many, including Dr. Loops, will work over the phone. He is not very expensive. If you let me know where you live, I’ll see if I know a vet nearby.

    Good luck.

  129. Carmen Spivey Says:

    I just got a 7 month mini pin, the lady I got her from
    Said she couldn’t take care of due to illness
    We got her Sunday night, Monday morning on the day light we
    Notice the dogs ribs were sticking out and she looks malnourished
    We’ll the mini pin wouldn’t eat we tried everything, she will
    Scratch around the food put some in her mouth and spits it out
    My husband bought puppy milk and a syringe that is how
    We are feeding now, it’s been 2 days, we started researching and looked at her paper work and saw that she got 4-5 shoots a heart worm test and first dose of the heart worm med
    This dog is less than 2 lbs. we live in a small town 2 vets, she also got flea treatment at the same time. We strongly believe this why
    she is not eating and why the previous owner sold her to me for $75. We couldn’t figure out why so cheap when they spent several hundred $$$ in January and the lady is older and has health problems this little dog doze take a lot of time and care but We wouldn’t think of giving her back, we want to know what else we can do for her. Please help us

  130. Carmen spivey Says:

    Hi I e-mailed you about a mini pin we got Sunday and that she wouldn’t eat , she Also got lots of shots in January and a flea treatment heart worm test and meds for heart worms. We’ll this Thursday night and little Abby is doing better we started force feeding with a syringe dog can milk , we feed her every 3-4 hrs round the clock, her stomach seem to have shrink, we started with one syringe dose then 8 hrs we were up to 2 later 5 yesterday she took 10 this morning she was up to15 and as of yesterday we didn’t force her she sees the syringe ( I hold her in my arms my husband feeds her) and she starts shaking sticks her lite neck out to get the milk. She had 20 small syringes ( children’s med size) and this afternoon she was eating dry food !! Her hair is shiny and her ribs are not shown gas bad , my problem do I tell her previous owner that Abby looks like she is going to be ok . We don’t want her to go back to them they sold her to us for $75. And didn’t tells us Abby had stopes eating, what is your opinion please

  131. Jan Says:

    Carmen, I don’t quite understand your question. Please explain more fully. Sorry.

  132. kay stevenson Says:

    I had my two small dogs vaccinate for rabies, last week, one has reacted before, the other hasn’t this time, they both had problems, requiring sub q fluids, antibiotics were prescribed, blood tests done, showing problems, My other five dogs are fine. They were not vaccinated, in reading through recent comments on various pages I am becoming increasingly concerned, there are a lot of posts on reactions just like the one my dogs had, all in Chihuahuas this year. I have had my dogs vaccinated every year so am not against vaccines. I am very concerned about contamination of this years rabies vaccine.

  133. Jan Says:

    Kay, why are you vaccinating every year? The important vaccines are pretty much only for puppies. If your vet is vaccinating yearly, he/she is way behind the times and is risking your dogs’ lives. Ask yourself this: why do adult dogs need puppy shots? Do you get your own childhood shots? Please, please read this: http://truth4pets.org/question-before-vaccination/

    Read this study of vaccine reactions in 1.5 million dogs: http://truth4pets.org/2012/06/vaccinating-small-pets/

    You should see a vet who knows how to handle vaccine reactions — and who doesn’t vaccinate using protocols from 20 years ago. http://www.truth4pets.org/vets

    I would worry less about contamination, which doesn’t happen often, and more about giving vaccines likely to kill your dogs at too young an age.

  134. Allison Bailey Says:

    Jan,

    We had our dog (5yo, merle, female, Australian Shepherd) vaccinated two weeks ago. It was against my better judgment, but I still made the call. I took her to a Coalition for Animal Protection clinic. She only had the rabies vaccine. After her shot, I dropped her off at the groomer. I picked her up later in the afternoon, brought her home, and then later that evening dropped her off at my sister-in-law’s house, as we were leaving for vacation the next morning. She was fine when I dropped her off. A few days later, she told me that she was still eating but was moping around. We all thought she just missed us. Friday (eight days after the vaccine), they dropped her off with another friend who was going to keep her for the last two days. My friend reported nothing unusual, but she doesn’t know our dog. She said she was playful but not overly rambunctious. This surprised me, because our dog loves new people, and I expected her to be a little crazy. When I picked her up Sunday, she seems very ready to come home. When we got back, I had to pick her up out of the truck, because she wouldn’t jump down.

    Since we’ve had her home this week, we’ve noticed that she’s not the same dog. She is slow, lays around, not excited, slowly eats instead of scarfing her food down, seems stiff, etc. On Tuesday, I found a sore that was partially scabbed over. It’s on the injection site, but it’s as big as a nickel. I have felt around, rubbed her joints, etc. to see if she was sore. I didn’t find any sore spots.

    Today I took her back to the clinic. I should note that this was the first time I’d seen the actual vet. She was not the one that gave the dog her shot. They said she had a hot spot, though they did acknowledge it was at the site. They said they’d shave it, and then they gave me some spray.

    They were adamant about the other symptoms not being from the vaccine. They said it was likely early onset hip dysplasia. Obviously I’m writing this because I know that’s absolutely wrong and they’re trying to cover themselves. They suggested I take her to a vet, get her x-rays, do painkillers, etc., all the while vehemently denying the vaccine was the cause. The tech started pulling on her back legs to prove to me that it was her hips. First she pulled the right one way back and then way forward. No reaction. She moved to the left and did the same. Finally, she pulled it so far forward that she yelped. Of course she did! I would’ve, too. And that’s the hip that was vaccinated.

    So I left with no help. I’m obviously not taking her to get x-rays for a problem she doesn’t have. But what do I do to help her? We really can’t afford hundreds of dollars on treatments that aren’t legitimate.

    We live in the Dallas-Fort Worth area.

    Any help would be greatly appreciated!

  135. Jan Says:

    Allison, I think you’re right to suspect that the culprit is the vaccine. The symptoms are classic.

    Your dog needs to see a holistic vet. There’s a good vet that should be fairly close to you. Here’s his website: http://www.petcarenaturally.com/

  136. Trisha Says:

    Help, I recently had my 14week Doberman puppy vaccinated with her second Dhlpp and Rabies at 12 weeks, 3 days after that visit she had sever intestinal distress, including vomiting, diarrhea and lethargic. I took her back and her symptom s were treated, in 24 hours she was back to her old self, now 12 days later she is having the same issues but worse it has been 3 days, 2 on meds, she had blood work and xrays which showed nothing and no improvement I am frustrated with the vet and started researching this and am convinced that this is caused by a reaction to 1 if not both of her vaccines, I called an emergency clinic tonight, but they would not speculate on my findings. I guess my next step is trying to locate and pay for holistic treatment, I am already 600.00 in vet bills in the last 3 weeks! My vet also said the vaccines could not be the cause since the symptoms were not intimidate but showed up 3 days later. I am sick about this!

  137. Jan Says:

    Trisha, your vet way over-vaccinated your poor puppy. That’s way too many vaccines at once. And it’s idiotic for the vet to say that all reactions happen immediately. There was a Purdue vet school study that studied vaccine reactions happening within 3 days in 1.5 million dogs. I can send it if you like. And many reactions happen 45-60 days after vaccination. Some even years.

    Please read http://www.dogs4dogs.com/blog/2010/12/02/what-to-do-when-your-dog-has-a-vaccine-reaction/ The manufacturer of the vaccine may help you with bills if you insist.

    You may want to read this before vaccinating again. http://truth4pets.org/question-before-vaccination/ Also, before getting another vaccine, if it were my dog, I’d do a titer test for parvo and distemper only. It’s one blood test and shouldn’t be expensive. http://truth4pets.org/2012/06/titer-testing/ Your vet is probably going to want to vaccinate instead. This vet, in my opinion, is not knowledgeable enough to use.

  138. 88smileys Says:

    My dog got his puppy package and rabies shots today at 13:00 hrs. Within the matter of hours he has the shakes and does not feel well at all. I have him covered up since he seems extremely cold. It looks as if he is going through drug withdrawals, is this normal?

  139. Jan Says:

    88smileys, your dog is having a potentially dangerous vaccine reaction. It is not normal. Call your vet immediately. If your vet’s clinic isn’t open, go to an emergency vet.

  140. Jan Says:

    88smileys, if your dog is small or medium-sized, and even if he’s not, you might want to read this. Also, which puppy “package” shots did your dog get?

  141. Carmel Says:

    Rudy, my beautiful nine year old Scottish Terrier, was vaccinated by my vet, on June 4th and died July 23rd. After his vaccines he was not well for a couple of days. He was very tender and sore (I could not lift him without him yelping in pain), and his right rear leg . The injection site was so stiff that he could not walk on it. He seemed to get better, although not as active as before, and every so often he couldn’t walk on his right hind leg.

    Three or so weeks later, in early July, he could not get up or respond to treats, so I took him to different vet, my usual vet was on vacation. While there, he did not exhibit these symptom, yet I explained his symptoms and emphasized that he had not been the same since his vaccinations. The vet could not determine what was wrong and did not think that the vaccines were the issue. I also explained his stiff, tender leg so she examined it, but did not find any signs of swelling or inflammation.

    Rudy seemed fine again, so we went on vacation for a week, bringing him with us. However, on the second day there, he fell seriously ill – 4th of July weekend. He threw up several times and had blood in is feces. He could not walk, feed himself or drink. I fed him water from a spoon. His body temperature dropped terribly low, so I covered him with a blanket and dozed some pain meds for his weight. I really thought we were going to lose him. The pain meds seemed to help and gradually he was back up and around, although, still not himself.

    After a week we were back home and he seemed to have recovered pretty well. He still had intermittent stiffness in his right hind leg and I still maintained my concern that something was not right. He didn’t want to walk too far on his evening walks, which was peculiar for him. He wanted to rest a lot more.

    I talked to another vet, a third one, about Rudy. I mentioned the vaccines, the continually sore leg and the episode on vacation. She admonished me for giving him a pain reliever (which I firmly believe saved him). She told me that there is a laser therapy that may help with the leg. I did not pursue this advice because I still believed that his symptoms were the consequence of the vaccines that were administered in June. She did not think the vaccines were the issue.

    The final event that led to Rudy’s death was on July 20. We took Rudy off his leash when my husband and I washed our cars in the driveway. One of his favorite activities was chasing the water that sprays out of the hose. He chased and jumped, and got a lot more exercise than he had since receiving his vaccinations. He seemed like his old self! But it proved too much for him. That evening he could barely walk. The next day, he rested and was lethargic. With high temperatures in our city, I attributed his inactivity to the heat. But on the second day, I came home from work and found Rudy laying on his side, his breathing labored. He was unable to move and had lost bladder and bowel control. I rushed him to the vet, a third one. It was too late. By the time I got there, she could not find a pulse.

    Rudy symptoms, and my concern that they were related to his vaccinations, were dismissed by three vets. The intervals of lethargy and soreness and inactivity and sickness got closer and closer, until finally he died. I am not a vet, but as Rudy’s owner what appears to have happened is that his little immune system could not keep up. As you can imagine, I am totally grief-stricken over the loss of my little companion. He was the apple of my eye. I feel so much personal responsibility because I took him in for those shots. I had no idea that they were not required. I have not been able to stop crying. Lack of knowledge of the risks associated with vaccines has significant consequences not only on pet health, but on the emotional well-being of the pet owners.

    Thank you for your website and making a venue for pet owners to share their stories.

  142. Leilani de Bod Says:

    I am so glad I found this as I am at my wits end. My very healthy 12week old puppy had his last parvo injection together with the law required rabies shot. He had a terrible reaction to this shot. Hives all over his body, hyperactivity, swollen face, red eyes – difficulty breathing shook head. Vomiting and now his stools contain blood. It has been 5 days since this shot. My vet refuses to believe the reaction was as a result of the vaccine as the symptoms started 6 hours after the injection and not 30minutes ! Other than the bloody stools he is active and has a good apetite. Please please please tell me how long does the effects take to wear off or work out of his system??

  143. Bill Breen Says:

    My old 4 year chihuahua has had 3 severe reactions to vaccinations, I will NEVER put her through this again. I vet gave her shots we specifically told her not to one time, I got my money back from my credit card. The last severe reaction was after i rabbies vaccine, that’s it! I have had enough and I’m sure my Peaches would say the same, if she could talk.

  144. jose sanchez Says:

    hi my dogs is about nine weeks we live in san antonio tx and today she just got her second shot Da2pp (W/O lepto) we left and came home and her face was puffy on one side and her eyes a red pink and a lil watery we could find an vets open but they only emergency vet around here wont take payments i went to the store and got benadrly and she took it her eye is looking less swollen but i dont know what els to do for her she was playing ate her food and is about to fall asleep any other advice please help!

  145. Jan Says:

    Jose, I’m sorry. I just saw your post. Your dog clearly had an allergic vaccine reaction. How is she? Keep an eye on her for the next 24 hours at least.

    I can’t believe an emergency vet wouldn’t treat a dog with such a serious reaction. Horrible.

    If she’s still okay, the worst is past. The bad news is that she was vaccinated too young. The FIRST shot should have been at 8-9 weeks. She should generally need another around 11 weeks and a final at 15 weeks. Who gave the shot? If a vet did, make sure you report the reaction and report it to the vaccine manufacturer as well and ask them what to do.

  146. Jan Says:

    Bill, make sure you reported the rabies vaccine reaction to the vet and manufacturer. Your dog likely won’t need any other vaccine and maybe you can get an exemption to rabies, depending on where you live.

    You might want to read this: http://truth4pets.org/question-before-vaccination/

  147. Jan Says:

    Leilani, your vet is a self-serving idiotic/liar who just doesn’t want to take the blame. Find another vet who has actually read something in the past decade. In 2005, there was a highly publicized study of 1.5 million dogs having reactions within 3 days of vaccination. That’s 72 hours. I’ll send you the study if you like. Contact me at http://www.dogs4dogs.com/contact The study was published in the AVMA Journal. Also, vaccines are known to cause reactions in 45-60 days and even a decade later (cancer).

    In addition, the last parvo is usually give at 15 weeks. And rabies should have been given alone. If it were my dog, I would do a parov/distemper titer test to see if your dog is done with vaccination. Please read http://truth4pets.org/2012/06/titer-testing/

    Please read this: Read this: http://truth4pets.org/question-before-vaccination/

  148. Jan Says:

    Carmel, I’m so sorry for your loss, and appreciate your beautifully-written story.

    That vets refuse to recognize reactions is maddening. I wrote an article about why: http://www.dogs4dogs.com/blog/2011/12/17/why-vets-dont-recognize-vaccine-reactions/

    I hope you reported the reaction to the drug maker. You don’t need to have proof.

    Which vaccines did your dog get?

    Wishing you healing.

  149. Susan McChesney Says:

    I took my 9 week old puppy for her first vet check 2 days ago at a new vet where the tech entered her age incorrectly as being 12 weeks of age. Consequently she was given her 12 week shots without explanation as to what she was given and why. Included was the Lepto vaccine. I was furious. The vet tried to blame it on the breeder who must have entered the information incorrectly. She took no action to give my puppy any medication to counteract the error. Five hours later, I had her at the vet as she reacted with nausea, diarrhea, excessive urine output, lethargy and extreme pain. She was given an injection of steroids and benedryl with a prescription for pain medicine. The next day she was worse and I took her back and she was kept for the day for “observation”. She reportedly now has a bladder infection, based on an in house urine screen. However the “newer” vet, now we are dealing with the owner of the clinic, had a prescription for antibiotics. But when I asked for the actual urine screen report, he gave it to me, but then said he was having second thoughts about giving me the antibiotics until he got the second set of labs from the outside lab today. I told him since the medicine had already been dispensed and I had personally made four trips to the vet in 36 hours, I would appreciate him giving me the medicine and if it doesn’t need to be given to her, i would discard it. He was irritated and said he would personally drive it to my house if need be! So condescending! Who do I report this entire incident to and what recourse do we have?

  150. Estelle Says:

    Carmel, my heart feels for you. I lost my 3 year old puppy two days ago due to a rabies vaccine reaction. I can’t stop crying. I am guilt stricken. I took him to the doctor thinking I was doing the right thing and instead he died. I love him so much. I’m sorry for your loss :(((

  151. Jan Says:

    Estelle, I’m so sorry for your loss. Please call the drug manufacturer and raise hell. Make sure they record the reaction and tell them you want compensation for the loss of your dog.

    If you let me know the circumstances of the reaction, I’ll try to help. Find out what vaccine was given — lot #, brand, etc. Find out what other medications were given, if any. Get a copy of your dog’s file.

    Vaccines are for healthy dogs only, and your vet and the manufacturer know this. You should sue your vet in small claims court and report him/her to your state board.

    Show this careless vet that killing someone’s dog is not okay.

  152. Estelle Says:

    Dutch was 3 years old. I took him to the Vet last Friday for a check up, I obviously thought I was doing good by that. The dr. said he had a g.i. infection and also gave him a rabies shot. The following day he pretty much laid around, later that evening he had 3 back to back seizures… but the day I took him to the doctor he was fine. I called the vet and they told me that dogs do not die from rabies vaccines or that he did not have too much phenobartital. They said he probably had a brain tumor or stroke. Both the Emergency Hospital and vet said the exact same thing. Can you help me move forward on this. I can email you a copy of my dogs file.

  153. Gabby Louise Says:

    First of all: sorry for my english but I need to share my experience here…
    I have a Shitzu and she is 5kg and 14 months now
    She had 4 vaccines in the same day
    On the next day she started to only sleep, didnt want to eat or drink, she had a sad look and thats all… more 3 days she vomited and continued only sleeping…
    well, after 4 days i got really worried.. she was breathing really strange..
    I decided to call the vet who did it and he said she probably ate something bad, that its wasnt the vaccines…
    I couldnt belive… but after 5 days he did a blood exam and he said she is sick and gave her a medicine to make the immunity system stronger..
    after 1 week now she is eating and playing with my cat again..
    but it really scared me because I saw a lot of people saying they lost their pets.. she really was scaring me with that behavior… i didnt know if she was ever getting better again… it seemed she wanted to die..

    Well.. the reason why i am writing is to ask about how i should decide in future:
    I like this vet she is going now.. he treated my other dog who was 17 years old and I think he was good for her… but I dont like that a vet can just deny that what happened was cause of the vaccine…
    Do you think I should go for another vet who has more conscience about this problem with little dogs?
    and if not, if I stay with him, should I ask next time for only one vaccine in the next time? To have a 1 month break to the next vaccine?
    Whats the best decision?
    I dont want that this happens again to my little dog… I wanna do the right thing now… and I cant trust really vaccines but she will need again and I know it…

    Thanks…

  154. Jan Says:

    Gabby, the vet who denied that your dog was having a vaccine reaction is not one I’d use. A study of vaccine reactions in 1.5 million dogs, published in the Journal of the American Veterinary Medical Association, showed that giving more than one vaccine at a time greatly increased the chance of reactions in small dogs. Please read http://truth4pets.org/2012/06/vaccinating-small-pets/

    Also read http://truth4pets.org/question-before-vaccination/ and see if you dog even needed vaccinating in the first place. Probably not.

    Write again if you need more help. Good luck.

  155. Irene Corman Says:

    Hi, I have a 4 1/2 year old Airedale who has had seizures from age 2 1/2, diagnosed as “idiopathic”. She is not medicated based on the frequency of occurrence. She has, in the past, had gastro issues and is a dog who is strong but has seemed more susceptible than normal to issues. She had “puppy” shots but did not have the booster at one year, due to gastric issues at that time. She did have the rabies at an earlier point but since and will not be having it.
    We have been told her other vaccines should be updated. We had her titred and she has antibodies to parvo but not to distemper. I see the research regarding not vaccinating epileptic dogs. What is the alternative? Thanks so much for all your work.
    Irene

  156. katherine de guzman Says:

    I have a 4-month old shih tzu. She was recently vaccined (Canine Distemper-Adenovirus Type 2-Parainfluenza-Parvovirus Vaccine). On the ninth day after being vaccined, we noticed that she has difficulty in moving. She did not eat nor drink and has fever. We brought her to vet,the doctor said it was because of phlegm forming inside her body and shot her with antibiotic, med for fever, and another med for her to spit out her phlegm. She was also dextrosed. We took her home and for 3 days now, we’ve been going home and back to vet while she has dextrose. On her 3rd day (she’s in our house again, and still has dextrose) she has difficulty in moving and breathing. Still hasnt eat and drink. She has blood-like poop (red brown in color) and vomits white sticky liquid (her plhegm maybe) We brought her to vet and the vet said that shes much better now than before (yesterday) because her gums arent pale anymore but im still worried because she seems to go back in her previous state. Her fever was already gone that time but still wont eat, drink and respond. Her 4th day, the vet shot her earlier with anitbiotic and for her cold, we brought her home at the evening, still with dextrose. Her 5th day today, (6AM) She can’t stand/move totally, doesnt bark, doesnt eat and drink,, still has dextrose, vomits still sticky white liquid, still poops blood-like stools. We’re crying now, we want to let her go because she’s very weak now, she seems to have seizures, we don’t know if shes dying or wants to stand up. We don’t know what to do. We are scheduled to go to vet later but we’re planning not to go back anymore because it seems to be no help and she’ll just be shot again with meds that i dont know if will do her good.

  157. katherine de guzman Says:

    *make her better.

    ++
    I don’t know if it’s part of her recovery process or she really is becoming weak. She still has dextrose now. We don’t know what to do. We’re at her side now and crying. Please help.

  158. katherine de guzman Says:

    ++
    She just makes small sounds and we really see that she’s fighting her sickness to survive.

  159. Jan Says:

    Irene, I believe it would be dangerous to vaccinate your dog with any vaccine. Please read this: http://truth4pets.org/question-before-vaccination/ Whoever told you to “update shots” is ill informed. Your dog likely has immunity to distemper of she would have gotten it. It’s everywhere. You might want to look into nosodes. http://www.charlesloopsdvm.com He’ll consult by phone.

    Good luck!

  160. Jan Says:

    Katherine, I’m so sorry that I didn’t read your post until now. What is happening with your dog? I’m hoping she got better.

  161. don hoemmelmeyer Says:

    MY 6 YR OLD PIT BULL ROXIE WENT TO VET IN CINCY OH ON 10/03/14 AND GOT EXAM AND DHHP VACCINATION .Vet also suggested leptospororsis vaccine since I take her in woods and around water,On 10/24/14 she received second leptospororsis shot.On10/27/14 I came home took her for walk and fed her and other dog for the night. one 1/2 hr later she vomited only once.about 45min later I tried to take them out for the last time .She didnt want to go go and seemed lethargic and I thought she just caught a bug.20min later was having trouble breathing and went into shock.She died on front seat on way to 24hr vet.My son mentioned it could have been the shot.The vet said any reaction would have happened in 1 to 3 hrs.they never mentioned the risk out way the benefit and and it shouldnt be given with other vaccines.

    They said she likely died of something else and advised not to do a necropsy because they are only 50% accurate and offered no other cooperation.I thought more was better.Better is less please be care full .vaccines especially leptospororsis vaccine can kill your dog. My dog was never sick like this beforeand I had had never seen a dog go so fast.I even had a dog with cancer on Chemo for
    1 and 1/2 yrs and she passed 07/31/14 and I had to put her to sleep. Vaccines can kill. Don in Cincinnati. please email me back at dhoemmelmeyer @roadrunner.com. She was an Angel

  162. don hoemmelmeyer Says:

    Has anyone else seen similar problem in pit bull vaccination ? My cockapoo lived to be 18 in the 80s and now I feed them nothing but Iams and fresh pet select.back then we only got vaccinations every 3yrs and he even lived through pancraeitus.

  163. Jan Says:

    Don, I’m so sorry for your loss, and your vet’s terrible behavior. Vaccine reactions can happen at any time and your vet should know it. About forgoing the necropsy, that’s to protect the vet and the vaccine maker. Also, a six-your-dog did not need a DHPP vaccine. And lepto is know to be dangerous.

    You might want to read this: http://truth4pets.org/question-before-vaccination/

    And this: http://www.dogs4dogs.com/blog/2011/12/17/why-vets-dont-recognize-vaccine-reactions/

    And fire the vet.

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