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		<title>By: Jan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2012 19:38:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eric, your dog needs a vet that knows want he/she is doing and needs help fast. Have you contacted the drug maker? Please read this article: http://www.dogs4dogs.com/blog/2010/12/02/what-to-do-when-your-dog-has-a-vaccine-reaction/  You&#039;ll find lots of info there. 

You need a specialist. Rimadyl is a dangerous drug. Where do you live? Maybe I can find you some help. Or I can get you a phone consult.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric, your dog needs a vet that knows want he/she is doing and needs help fast. Have you contacted the drug maker? Please read this article: <a href="http://www.dogs4dogs.com/blog/2010/12/02/what-to-do-when-your-dog-has-a-vaccine-reaction/" rel="nofollow">http://www.dogs4dogs.com/blog/2010/12/02/what-to-do-when-your-dog-has-a-vaccine-reaction/</a>  You&#8217;ll find lots of info there. </p>
<p>You need a specialist. Rimadyl is a dangerous drug. Where do you live? Maybe I can find you some help. Or I can get you a phone consult.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2012 15:19:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My cockerpoo was required a flu shot for boarding.  He has been sick for 11 days and I am very worried about him.  His urine is highly concentrated, barely eats his food or treats and is extremely sleepy and lethargic.  He was 18.5 pounds and now is doen to 16.0.  The vet said his vitals are normal and give him a Rinadyl for inflamation 5 days ago.  he wouldnt take it and was gagging.  He&#039;s not getting the second part of the shot cause Im afraid hed die.  Im still concerned cause his recovery from the firts part really knocked him out and Im afraid he may die from it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My cockerpoo was required a flu shot for boarding.  He has been sick for 11 days and I am very worried about him.  His urine is highly concentrated, barely eats his food or treats and is extremely sleepy and lethargic.  He was 18.5 pounds and now is doen to 16.0.  The vet said his vitals are normal and give him a Rinadyl for inflamation 5 days ago.  he wouldnt take it and was gagging.  He&#8217;s not getting the second part of the shot cause Im afraid hed die.  Im still concerned cause his recovery from the firts part really knocked him out and Im afraid he may die from it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Aug 2011 22:10:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Kathy. It&#039;s hard to know if the vaccine caused the reaction you described. Vaccines can stress an animal causing a number of reactions. Or maybe it&#039;s just a coincidence. However, if the vomiting and lack of appetite started right after the shot -- well, I&#039;d certainly consider it.

Have your vet show you the &quot;product insert&quot; for the vaccine. Check for these reactions. Sometimes vets don&#039;t realize that a particular reaction is commonplace.

Also, contact the vaccine manufacturer. They may well say they&#039;ve never heard of a reaction like this (they too often do no matter what the reaction), but they&#039;ll have to report it to the USDA. But maybe they&#039;ll surprise you and help.

Don&#039;t hesitate to consult another vet if the condition doesn&#039;t improve quickly -- particularly a vet trained in homeopathy. A good vet will welcome another opinion.  For referral lists, see www.dogs4dogs.com/vets</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Kathy. It&#8217;s hard to know if the vaccine caused the reaction you described. Vaccines can stress an animal causing a number of reactions. Or maybe it&#8217;s just a coincidence. However, if the vomiting and lack of appetite started right after the shot &#8212; well, I&#8217;d certainly consider it.</p>
<p>Have your vet show you the &#8220;product insert&#8221; for the vaccine. Check for these reactions. Sometimes vets don&#8217;t realize that a particular reaction is commonplace.</p>
<p>Also, contact the vaccine manufacturer. They may well say they&#8217;ve never heard of a reaction like this (they too often do no matter what the reaction), but they&#8217;ll have to report it to the USDA. But maybe they&#8217;ll surprise you and help.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t hesitate to consult another vet if the condition doesn&#8217;t improve quickly &#8212; particularly a vet trained in homeopathy. A good vet will welcome another opinion.  For referral lists, see <a href="http://www.dogs4dogs.com/vets" rel="nofollow">http://www.dogs4dogs.com/vets</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kathy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Aug 2011 20:46:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am wondering if my six year old golden retriever is having a reaction to this vaccine.  He has been vomiting and not eating since he had the vaccination a month ago and we have been working on this with a vet during this whole time.  He doesn&#039;t have abnormal blood work but we are now checking for Addisons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am wondering if my six year old golden retriever is having a reaction to this vaccine.  He has been vomiting and not eating since he had the vaccination a month ago and we have been working on this with a vet during this whole time.  He doesn&#8217;t have abnormal blood work but we are now checking for Addisons.</p>
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		<title>By: Jan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2011 18:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Terrie, I&#039;m so happy to hear that all is going well. And good for your vet for being an advocate for your dog. I hope she/you reported the problem and that the pharmaceutical company paid your vet bills.  

Re Big Pharma caring about our pets, I&#039;m skeptical. I think they are interested in the bottom line. Why else would they push vaccines that are dangerous and have annual revaccination recommendations on their vials?  I hope you make them pay for your dog&#039;s illness.

Thanks so much for the update.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terrie, I&#8217;m so happy to hear that all is going well. And good for your vet for being an advocate for your dog. I hope she/you reported the problem and that the pharmaceutical company paid your vet bills.  </p>
<p>Re Big Pharma caring about our pets, I&#8217;m skeptical. I think they are interested in the bottom line. Why else would they push vaccines that are dangerous and have annual revaccination recommendations on their vials?  I hope you make them pay for your dog&#8217;s illness.</p>
<p>Thanks so much for the update.</p>
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		<title>By: Terrie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terrie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2011 18:43:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Jan,

Its been over a year and a half since I first contacted you about my dog Nico developing IMHA after receiving the K9 flu vaccine.  It has been a long recovery period for him, but so far he seems to be doing well and back to his old self. My Vet continues to followed up on his recovery very closely.   Nico’s has been weaned completely off prednisone this past May 2011.  So far his Hgb, Hct and Total Bili have been within normal limits.  His follow up appointments are now once a month and his next blood test is next week.  My Vet has consulted with other Vets across the USA and it has been decided that Nico can no longer have another vaccine due to that fact it can easily trigger him to get IMHA again. The risk isn&#039;t worth it. 

It has been a very long and expensive recovery period.  My vet no longer offers this vaccine, and I no longer see it advertised in the local pet stores.  If the original literature would have included all of the adverse reactions and warnings, this entire situation could have been avoided. Unfortunately, they  failed to disclose any of the reactions or side effects, including death in the original literature. 

My heart goes out to all of the other dog owners who lost a very important member of their family because of this K9 flu vaccine. Even though Nico seems to be fully recovered, we worry about relapse.  I am always watching and observing for the slightest change.  Vacations now include the dogs and our destinations are always in the vicinity of a reputable vet.  

In the past two years I learned that the law views pets as property. I also learned that this view is slowly changing. Hopefully the pharmaceutical companies have learned that our pets are very important members of our family. We love them, and we do not view them as property.  When they become sick, or hurt,  we hurt.  We will stand up for our four legged family members and fight for them as their advocate. There is a good reason why they are called our K9 kids because they are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Jan,</p>
<p>Its been over a year and a half since I first contacted you about my dog Nico developing IMHA after receiving the K9 flu vaccine.  It has been a long recovery period for him, but so far he seems to be doing well and back to his old self. My Vet continues to followed up on his recovery very closely.   Nico’s has been weaned completely off prednisone this past May 2011.  So far his Hgb, Hct and Total Bili have been within normal limits.  His follow up appointments are now once a month and his next blood test is next week.  My Vet has consulted with other Vets across the USA and it has been decided that Nico can no longer have another vaccine due to that fact it can easily trigger him to get IMHA again. The risk isn&#8217;t worth it. </p>
<p>It has been a very long and expensive recovery period.  My vet no longer offers this vaccine, and I no longer see it advertised in the local pet stores.  If the original literature would have included all of the adverse reactions and warnings, this entire situation could have been avoided. Unfortunately, they  failed to disclose any of the reactions or side effects, including death in the original literature. </p>
<p>My heart goes out to all of the other dog owners who lost a very important member of their family because of this K9 flu vaccine. Even though Nico seems to be fully recovered, we worry about relapse.  I am always watching and observing for the slightest change.  Vacations now include the dogs and our destinations are always in the vicinity of a reputable vet.  </p>
<p>In the past two years I learned that the law views pets as property. I also learned that this view is slowly changing. Hopefully the pharmaceutical companies have learned that our pets are very important members of our family. We love them, and we do not view them as property.  When they become sick, or hurt,  we hurt.  We will stand up for our four legged family members and fight for them as their advocate. There is a good reason why they are called our K9 kids because they are.</p>
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		<title>By: Julie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Sep 2010 15:58:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am so very sorry to hear of the dogs and their human parents who have suffered because of the dog flu shot - my heart goes out to all of you. I had considered and even planned to take my dogs to the vet tomorrow to get theirs but am so glad I read this information as I will definitely NOT get this vaccine. Thank you so much for the great information contained on this website.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am so very sorry to hear of the dogs and their human parents who have suffered because of the dog flu shot &#8211; my heart goes out to all of you. I had considered and even planned to take my dogs to the vet tomorrow to get theirs but am so glad I read this information as I will definitely NOT get this vaccine. Thank you so much for the great information contained on this website.</p>
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		<title>By: Jan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 00:30:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tracy, I&#039;m stumped. I haven&#039;t heard of this reaction before. It wouldn&#039;t hurt to check with your vet. Sorry I can&#039;t be of more help. I would do some more research. Hearsay from a breeder is not sufficient medical advice.  You might calling the manufacturer of the vaccine. In any event, it should be reported.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tracy, I&#8217;m stumped. I haven&#8217;t heard of this reaction before. It wouldn&#8217;t hurt to check with your vet. Sorry I can&#8217;t be of more help. I would do some more research. Hearsay from a breeder is not sufficient medical advice.  You might calling the manufacturer of the vaccine. In any event, it should be reported.</p>
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		<title>By: Tracy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 02:54:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My 1.5 year old red doberman received this vaccine inorder to board for a weekend in mid August at a veterinary hospital.  She has not &quot;acted&quot; ill but about a week ago I noticed that she appears to be losing pigmentation (not white but pink where she once was brown) on her outer nasal flaps and inner lips.  The fur just under her nose, where her whiskers are also appears somewhat lighter than the surrounding fur on her muzzle.  I feared that this was the beginning of Vitiligo but her breeder asked if she had recently been vaccinated as she had recently heard a similar story that was connected to a vaccine reaction (not certain of which).  Needless to say, I will not be boostering this vaccine but wonder if I need to see the vet.  Any feedback is greatly appreciated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My 1.5 year old red doberman received this vaccine inorder to board for a weekend in mid August at a veterinary hospital.  She has not &#8220;acted&#8221; ill but about a week ago I noticed that she appears to be losing pigmentation (not white but pink where she once was brown) on her outer nasal flaps and inner lips.  The fur just under her nose, where her whiskers are also appears somewhat lighter than the surrounding fur on her muzzle.  I feared that this was the beginning of Vitiligo but her breeder asked if she had recently been vaccinated as she had recently heard a similar story that was connected to a vaccine reaction (not certain of which).  Needless to say, I will not be boostering this vaccine but wonder if I need to see the vet.  Any feedback is greatly appreciated.</p>
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		<title>By: Lak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2010 20:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My min. schnauzer had to be put to sleep on Mon 8/2/10.  After kenneling her in April 2010  &amp; having (1) part of the flu shot - within 3 months she stopped eating, started peeing in the house, falling on her side &amp; passing out, drank water all the time, didn&#039;t want to walk after awhile, or just stood up and wouldn&#039;t lie down.  I know she was 13 years old &amp; 3 months, but it is very councidental that this all happened so fast after being in the kennel and getting the flu shot.  I also am not sure if the kennel had put her in an in-door/out-door cage (in which I had asked for, and she always got the run of the house).  So she may have had some extra stress on her because she didn&#039;t see any sunshine, fresh air while we were on vacation for a week.  I guess I will never know what exactly happened.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My min. schnauzer had to be put to sleep on Mon 8/2/10.  After kenneling her in April 2010  &amp; having (1) part of the flu shot &#8211; within 3 months she stopped eating, started peeing in the house, falling on her side &amp; passing out, drank water all the time, didn&#8217;t want to walk after awhile, or just stood up and wouldn&#8217;t lie down.  I know she was 13 years old &amp; 3 months, but it is very councidental that this all happened so fast after being in the kennel and getting the flu shot.  I also am not sure if the kennel had put her in an in-door/out-door cage (in which I had asked for, and she always got the run of the house).  So she may have had some extra stress on her because she didn&#8217;t see any sunshine, fresh air while we were on vacation for a week.  I guess I will never know what exactly happened.</p>
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