Comments on: Treating Adverse Vaccine Reactions by Jean Dodds, DVM

By: Bethany

Bethany — Fri, 04 Nov 2011 01:22:35 +0000

Thank you for your reply, Jan. As much as I would like to try talking the place out of hosting this ‘Vet day’, I also realize how extremely unlikely it is that the animal would actually die from the vaccines right there. They get those animals in and out so quickly! I also know all too well that if the pet does have reactions later, and/or dies, chances are slim that anyone would even acknowledge the connection to the vaccine. I don’t mean to sound so pessimistic here, but I doubt there’s much of a chance of me convincing the facility that those Vet Days are so very unsafe. Perhaps I will try the State’s Vet Board instead. Wish me luck!

By: Jan

Jan — Fri, 07 Oct 2011 22:43:52 +0000

Hi Bethany. In my opinion, these “Vet Days” are irresponsible at best. They are putting profit over caution. Virtually every vaccine label states that the vaccine is for “healthy dogs only.” If there is no exam, how does the vet know the dog is healthy?

Is it illegal? I doubt it. It would be interesting to find out what shots they say are “necessary” for adult dogs. They are probably giving too many different vaccines — vaccines inappropriate for the area and the age, health and lifestyle of the animal. They are also surely giving too many vaccines at once. See http://www.dogs4dogs.com/blog/2009/09/30/vaccinating-small-dogs-risks-vets-arent-revealing/

I suspect you have two options. One is to talk to the owner of the facility about the problem. You can send him/her guidelines set out by veterinary organizations. She will surely be jointly liable if a dog has a bad reaction. You might point out her liability. That might scare him/her. It would scare me. What happens if a dog dies at one of her sponsored events?

Armed with information, you can write to your state’s veterinary medical board and complain. The vets are not only acting recklessly, but surely are NOT informing the clients of potential risks. This violates the doctrine of informed consent.

It would be great if you could get others to join in, but it will be difficult. People don’t want to believe that vets ever do anything wrong and they probably don’t want to leave the facility.

You asked if you SHOULD do anything. Let your conscience be your guide.

By: Bethany

Bethany — Fri, 07 Oct 2011 13:46:37 +0000

I have found a wonderful alternative to normal dog boarding here in Delaware! My dog really seems quite happy and eager to play with other dogs of approximate age & weight in a cage-free environment staffed 24/7. While I do love this place, I have recently learned that once a month or so they sponsor what they call “Vet Day”. Apparently vets come in & give ‘necessary’ vaccinations at reduced rates since the Wellness Exam fee is ‘waived’. Upon hearing this I asked if they actually do any wellness exam before giving the shots. I am shocked & (after losing an older dog to a terrible auto-immune disease, likely caused through over-vaccinations) downright horrified to learn that No, there is no wellness exam before the shots! Jan – is this even legal?? It sure as heck doesn’t seem ethical to me, and probably even neglectful. PLEASE give your thoughts on this ‘Vet Day’ event, and let me know if there is anything I can or should try to do to change or stop it. I could be mistaken, but this really scares the BLEEP out of me!!

By: Jan

Jan — Thu, 23 Jun 2011 17:30:07 +0000

Hi Keith. I’ve never heard of a vaccination causing blindness. You should do a Google search for it. Still, the timing is interesting.

I’m very disappointed that your vet vaccinated a 12 yr old dog. Why did she need puppy shots at her age? Was there an epidemic in the area? Was there reason to believe your dog lacked immunity? Why was a titer test not recommended instead? Why endanger your dog needlessly?

There is no science and no veterinary organization, only drug companies, that would agree with this practice.

Check out my articles on titer testing and eliminating unnecessary shots at http://www.truth4dogs.com

Good luck.

Also, why kennel cough? Not only is it ineffective, it is dangerous. Was your dog going into a clinic?

By: Keith Lorenzen

Keith Lorenzen — Thu, 23 Jun 2011 05:08:15 +0000

Last Friday we had our nine pound, 12 year old Shih Tzu in for hearing issues and ear cleaning. An ear cleaning and cytoloy was performed. She was given dexamethasone IM/SQ and two vaccinations (bordetella and DHPP w/o CVK) at their recommendation.

Progressively her hearing and vision have diminished and today,five days later she appears almost completely blind. We have an appointment tomorrow and would like to know your thoughts on what the cause could be and how to intelligently question the vet. Hopefully the damage can be reversed. Thanks for your time.

By: Jan

Jan — Mon, 30 May 2011 23:49:18 +0000

Carole, shame on your vet for giving two highly reactive vaccines together. How can you report reactions when you don’t know which vaccine was to blame, or if it was a combination of the two? In any event, I hope you report the reactions to both vaccine manufacturers. Here’s an article that might help you: http://www.dogs4dogs.com/blog/2010/12/02/what-to-do-when-your-dog-has-a-vaccine-reaction/

By: Carole Papow

Carole Papow — Mon, 30 May 2011 23:44:12 +0000

Hi, I had my 8 year old bullmastiff/cane corso mix vaccinated against rabies, and lymes. Within an hour, my 100 lb dog passed out in the middle of our street. He had white gums, a low pulse and freezing cold limbs. It took over an hour for the vet to revive him with steroids and iv, and thank God, he is home now, but still with a low red cell count and elevated white count. His bloodwork shows no indicators of a previous disease. I will never vaccinate again.

By: Jan

Jan — Tue, 01 Jun 2010 23:46:55 +0000

Beth, what a horrible story. I’m sorry to say I know nothing about treating strangles, although I’d sure seek out a vet trained in homeopathy and holistic medicine. There are referral lists at http://www.dogs4dogs.com/vets Homeopathy is the best cure for vaccinosis — vaccine induced disease. You need someone really skilled. I don’t know any vets in Seattle or Atlanta, unfortunately.

There is a holistic consulting vet in Vermont who consults by phone. He’s absolutely brilliant. He’ll work with another vet, or in some states, can work with you directly. Reach him at http://www.crvetcenter.com He has been treating my dog Jiggy, who has autoimmune liver disease, for years. He has come to specialize in difficult cases. You send blood tests and any notes, then he’ll send a written recommendation and you can also talk to him directly. I’ve sent many people to him and they all love him.

I don’t know whether it is too late or not, but I hope you report that horrible to your state veterinary association.

By: Beth Blough

Beth Blough — Tue, 01 Jun 2010 23:31:54 +0000

My friend sold a standard Schnauzer to a couple in Seattle Washington. They have had the puppy 10 weeks and they got him at 10 weeks of age. He had 1 dose of distemper and Parvo before he left. they were instructed to have the puppy seen by a Vet within 72 hours of arrival to ensure them that they puppy was healthy and to start and good relationship with the vet. the recommended shot protocol was sent along with the puppy as well as the recommendation that while he needed to be neutered we did not recommend this before 9 months of age and preferably after a year.
Today the puppy is fighting for it’s life. it has puppy strangles which the vet informed the couple that this disease most likely ran in my friends genetic lines. in the meanwhile the puppy has received 4 series of whombo combo shots and has already been neutered!!!! he came home from the neutering and shots and got sick within 72 hours. He has lesions in his ears, his face and neck are distorted with swelling and they are distraught. What can they do for this puppy? Other then leave this vet which they are doing immediately
A year ago one of my puppies was destroyed by a vet after she told the family that the puppy had to worst case of oral cancer that she had seen in 15 years and that (horrifically) it was the 15th case she had seen in 3 months! She recommended that the pup be put down immediately as it was suffering! I demanded that they take photos and send off a pathology report and the puppy back to me, it was too late they destroyed my beautiful boy. I knew from the photos he had canine papilloma virus an autoimmune puppy disease from over vaccination. how many “cancer” pups did she destroy from faulty diagnosis? 4 days later the pathology report came back CPV. She apologized and sent me a bill!!!!! I dont understand when it became about selling the vaccines and not about the health and well being of our family pets!
If you can offer any suggestions for the treatment of puppy strangles we are all ears. Suffering in Atlanta and Seattle seeking advise!

By: Jan

Jan — Thu, 15 Apr 2010 16:57:07 +0000

Lark, I got this from a vet friend who spends her life researching vaccines:

I have not heard anything yet. I did send out request to colleagues to see if they had heard anything. These vaccines of Merial use chimeras and this vaccine is a modified live, parvo may be wild type and caused the disease…..The company should pay all of the bills including the cost of the pups…..so very sad. Dr. Ford stated that one in ten dogs vaccinated with parvo vaccines would get parvo from the vaccine! Most all of whom I am associated would not give 5 way vax anyway, only a DAP or single parvo only. A modified live and multivalent vaccine as it was is much more likely to cause disease. Now that PCR DNA testing is available……if i were them I would demand that lots be tested and a full report be delivered to the owners with the result of genetic tracing to what was int that vaccine.