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		<title>By: Jan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 19:16:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Debra, that&#039;s so sad. Please make sure that both you AND the vet report the death to the manufacturer. This drug has only conditional approval so all adverse reactions must be reported.  If everyone reports reactions, then maybe the drug will be stopped. Maybe ....

When you call the manufacturer -- you&#039;ll need brand and lot # -- ask if they have statistics on deaths reported. They probably won&#039;t tell you, but if you find out anything, please let me know. FYI, 5% of reactions reported for the rabies vaccine are death.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Debra, that&#8217;s so sad. Please make sure that both you AND the vet report the death to the manufacturer. This drug has only conditional approval so all adverse reactions must be reported.  If everyone reports reactions, then maybe the drug will be stopped. Maybe &#8230;.</p>
<p>When you call the manufacturer &#8212; you&#8217;ll need brand and lot # &#8212; ask if they have statistics on deaths reported. They probably won&#8217;t tell you, but if you find out anything, please let me know. FYI, 5% of reactions reported for the rabies vaccine are death.</p>
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		<title>By: Debra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Debra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 18:37:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My mother&#039;s 5 year old Scottie just passed away this past Sunday night  2 weeks after he was given his booster shot for canine flu virus. My mother told me within a few days after receiving the vaccination Mac became increasingly lethargic and weak. Mac went back to the vet(the same one who hoodwinked my mother into getting the vaccine) who told my mom he was just having a mild reaction. By the second week Mac could not walk and would not eat. By the time he made the second trip to the vet his gums were white, his urine dark yellow and his stools pale orange. Mac died from autoimmune hemolytic anemia. Please do not give your pets this vaccine. I am sure there are lots of dogs who have received the shot without having any serious side effects but there is not way I would take the risk with my 2 dogs. Mac was a happy little dog and his death  will hopefully save others dogs from the same fate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My mother&#8217;s 5 year old Scottie just passed away this past Sunday night  2 weeks after he was given his booster shot for canine flu virus. My mother told me within a few days after receiving the vaccination Mac became increasingly lethargic and weak. Mac went back to the vet(the same one who hoodwinked my mother into getting the vaccine) who told my mom he was just having a mild reaction. By the second week Mac could not walk and would not eat. By the time he made the second trip to the vet his gums were white, his urine dark yellow and his stools pale orange. Mac died from autoimmune hemolytic anemia. Please do not give your pets this vaccine. I am sure there are lots of dogs who have received the shot without having any serious side effects but there is not way I would take the risk with my 2 dogs. Mac was a happy little dog and his death  will hopefully save others dogs from the same fate.</p>
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		<title>By: susan green</title>
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		<dc:creator>susan green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 23:58:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m very sad and angry and I&#039;ll keep it brief.  I took my 14 yr.
old miniature poodle to the vet for grooming on a Thursday.
I was told that she had to have the flu shot for her to be groomed, had been with this vet for many yrs.  She was a very
healthy poodle, she had a small heart murmur for many yrs., but
she still acted like a puppy.  She ran daily.  On Saturday after
the grooming I noticed that she was having trouble breathing
and couldn&#039;t get comfortable.  I took her to the vet at 5 p.m.,
had to wait one hour to see the Dr. and during this time the
dogs tongue began to turn purple which I reported to the tech.
They took the dog in for an x-ray and shortly after she had a
major heart attack, her heart blew-up, and she was gone.  I
honestly feel that the shot killed my dog......there was no reason for her to die, she was just to happy and healthy.  I wish I had read your info before I allowed them to give her the
shot......PLEASE warn others.       Thank you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m very sad and angry and I&#8217;ll keep it brief.  I took my 14 yr.<br />
old miniature poodle to the vet for grooming on a Thursday.<br />
I was told that she had to have the flu shot for her to be groomed, had been with this vet for many yrs.  She was a very<br />
healthy poodle, she had a small heart murmur for many yrs., but<br />
she still acted like a puppy.  She ran daily.  On Saturday after<br />
the grooming I noticed that she was having trouble breathing<br />
and couldn&#8217;t get comfortable.  I took her to the vet at 5 p.m.,<br />
had to wait one hour to see the Dr. and during this time the<br />
dogs tongue began to turn purple which I reported to the tech.<br />
They took the dog in for an x-ray and shortly after she had a<br />
major heart attack, her heart blew-up, and she was gone.  I<br />
honestly feel that the shot killed my dog&#8230;&#8230;there was no reason for her to die, she was just to happy and healthy.  I wish I had read your info before I allowed them to give her the<br />
shot&#8230;&#8230;PLEASE warn others.       Thank you</p>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 12:25:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi-  It is a groomer that works in the vets office-  thank you for your answer.  Will update my response from the vet&#039;s office</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi-  It is a groomer that works in the vets office-  thank you for your answer.  Will update my response from the vet&#8217;s office</p>
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		<title>By: Jan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 20:52:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lee, no, I can&#039;t. And I suspect they can&#039;t either. But that&#039;s not the point. It&#039;s an unproven shot. Has there been a case in your area? Is it safe?

If you read both the articles on the dog flu on my Truth4Dogs.com blog, you already know the answer.  I am appalled that the groomer is giving the shot, or are you saying that you have to go to a vet to get it?

If it were my dog, I&#039;d ask them to put in writing that the shot was necessary, effective and safe and that they would pay for any adverse reactions caused by the shot. Ask them to sign it and have it witnessed. 

They won&#039;t do it! In which case you ask, why would you want me to give my dog an unproven shot that might cause adverse reactions?

They should drop the issue.  If not, find another groomer who knows more about immunity.  Don&#039;t let them scare you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lee, no, I can&#8217;t. And I suspect they can&#8217;t either. But that&#8217;s not the point. It&#8217;s an unproven shot. Has there been a case in your area? Is it safe?</p>
<p>If you read both the articles on the dog flu on my Truth4Dogs.com blog, you already know the answer.  I am appalled that the groomer is giving the shot, or are you saying that you have to go to a vet to get it?</p>
<p>If it were my dog, I&#8217;d ask them to put in writing that the shot was necessary, effective and safe and that they would pay for any adverse reactions caused by the shot. Ask them to sign it and have it witnessed. </p>
<p>They won&#8217;t do it! In which case you ask, why would you want me to give my dog an unproven shot that might cause adverse reactions?</p>
<p>They should drop the issue.  If not, find another groomer who knows more about immunity.  Don&#8217;t let them scare you.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
		<link>http://www.dogs4dogs.com/blog/2009/07/01/dog-flu-vaccine-do-you-need-a-shot-for-the-h3n8-virus/comment-page-1/#comment-8348</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 19:52:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi- I called to make a grooming appointment today for my dog.  I was informed that I should get this vaccine for the dog.  I asked if I bring him in and get the shot, how quick does it work?  They responded 70% prevention immediately with one shot the other due in three weeks.  I am concerned with the data they gave us.  I am not interested in having the vaccine administered---  I was told each shot was 24.00.  Can you verify the 70% prevention.  Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi- I called to make a grooming appointment today for my dog.  I was informed that I should get this vaccine for the dog.  I asked if I bring him in and get the shot, how quick does it work?  They responded 70% prevention immediately with one shot the other due in three weeks.  I am concerned with the data they gave us.  I am not interested in having the vaccine administered&#8212;  I was told each shot was 24.00.  Can you verify the 70% prevention.  Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Amy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 21:21:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for responding, Jan!  Believe me, it was NOT easy finding a vet who actually cares about my dogs rather than their designer waiting room or profits.  I spent many hours interviewing area vets.   She is wonderful and I&#039;m grateful  for her.  
I will draft several &quot;letters to the editor&quot; for our local newspapers about this subject.  I am appauled at the number of people rushing out to give their dog this 2 series vaccine without any knowledge of it&#039;s ramifications, or that their dog is in fact being used as a guinea pig to test it&#039;s effectiveness and it&#039;s side effects!  As I told the day care owner, I see no coincidence in the direct timinig of the conditional license approval to the pharmaceutical company and the fresh media coverage.  I haven&#039;t heard anything back on this subject or the fact that I have pulled my business.  I can only hope that they are investigating it further and will eventually cease the mandate.  I love your blog and will be back! :)  Thanks for all you do for the well being of our canine kids.

Amy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for responding, Jan!  Believe me, it was NOT easy finding a vet who actually cares about my dogs rather than their designer waiting room or profits.  I spent many hours interviewing area vets.   She is wonderful and I&#8217;m grateful  for her.<br />
I will draft several &#8220;letters to the editor&#8221; for our local newspapers about this subject.  I am appauled at the number of people rushing out to give their dog this 2 series vaccine without any knowledge of it&#8217;s ramifications, or that their dog is in fact being used as a guinea pig to test it&#8217;s effectiveness and it&#8217;s side effects!  As I told the day care owner, I see no coincidence in the direct timinig of the conditional license approval to the pharmaceutical company and the fresh media coverage.  I haven&#8217;t heard anything back on this subject or the fact that I have pulled my business.  I can only hope that they are investigating it further and will eventually cease the mandate.  I love your blog and will be back! <img src='http://www.dogs4dogs.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   Thanks for all you do for the well being of our canine kids.</p>
<p>Amy</p>
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		<title>By: Jan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 16:43:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Amy. Good for you for finding a smart vet and for deciding not to give an unproven vaccine. 

I suggest you talk with the day care provider and tell them they you believe they&#039;ve been poorly advised and that your vet believes it is dangerous to give the shot. Offer to sign a letter releasing them from liability if your dog gets the flu. Remember, the only reason for them to want you to vaccinate, once you&#039;ve released them from liability, is to protect &lt;em&gt;other&lt;/em&gt; dogs. But if the other dogs either have provided a liability release or have vaccinated, then the provider has no worries.  People usually get confused thinking that if you don&#039;t vaccinate YOUR dog, then the others will get sick. But if the vaccine works, and they&#039;re vaccinated, it doesn&#039;t matter if your dog is vaccinated or not.

If it were my dog, I&#039;d try the logical approach first, then raise a stink with the other dog owners and even the local news. Others need to know that this shot is unproven and has only conditional approval and there are no cases in your area. Become an activist. Then take a look at all the other unnecessary shots they require. 

My own doctor recently suggested I take the H1N1 shot, even though I&#039;m not in a group at risk -- if there&#039;s even much of a risk. I said, sure, as long as she writes me a letter offering to pay every penny of my medical bills that can be traced to vaccination -- for the rest of my life. She stopped suggesting the shot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Amy. Good for you for finding a smart vet and for deciding not to give an unproven vaccine. </p>
<p>I suggest you talk with the day care provider and tell them they you believe they&#8217;ve been poorly advised and that your vet believes it is dangerous to give the shot. Offer to sign a letter releasing them from liability if your dog gets the flu. Remember, the only reason for them to want you to vaccinate, once you&#8217;ve released them from liability, is to protect <em>other</em> dogs. But if the other dogs either have provided a liability release or have vaccinated, then the provider has no worries.  People usually get confused thinking that if you don&#8217;t vaccinate YOUR dog, then the others will get sick. But if the vaccine works, and they&#8217;re vaccinated, it doesn&#8217;t matter if your dog is vaccinated or not.</p>
<p>If it were my dog, I&#8217;d try the logical approach first, then raise a stink with the other dog owners and even the local news. Others need to know that this shot is unproven and has only conditional approval and there are no cases in your area. Become an activist. Then take a look at all the other unnecessary shots they require. </p>
<p>My own doctor recently suggested I take the H1N1 shot, even though I&#8217;m not in a group at risk &#8212; if there&#8217;s even much of a risk. I said, sure, as long as she writes me a letter offering to pay every penny of my medical bills that can be traced to vaccination &#8212; for the rest of my life. She stopped suggesting the shot.</p>
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		<title>By: Amy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 02:57:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Last Friday I received a letter from my doggy day care  that the H3N8 vaccine will be required for all attending dogs as of May 1, 2010.  I am very upset about this!  When the first hooplah hit the media regarding this virus, I immediately called my vet.  She told me the vaccine was conditional and adverse effects were not fully understood,  there was not a singlem infection reported in our area,  and so do not vaccinate at this time.  After receiving the letter from my Frenchies&#039; day care, I called my vet again.  Her exact words were &quot;Oh boy, find a new day care.&quot;  I can&#039;t understand how a business can madate a vaccine that is not advised by a veterinarian!  I loved the day care center and the dogs especially loved it there.  It breaks my heart to pull them out but it seems unethical to force an ultimatum for a vaccine that is not fully licensed.  And since when is the vaccination of my dogs a decision of the day care?  I will, with the educated advice of my vet, decide if and when to vaccinate them.  

Frustrated in Buffalo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last Friday I received a letter from my doggy day care  that the H3N8 vaccine will be required for all attending dogs as of May 1, 2010.  I am very upset about this!  When the first hooplah hit the media regarding this virus, I immediately called my vet.  She told me the vaccine was conditional and adverse effects were not fully understood,  there was not a singlem infection reported in our area,  and so do not vaccinate at this time.  After receiving the letter from my Frenchies&#8217; day care, I called my vet again.  Her exact words were &#8220;Oh boy, find a new day care.&#8221;  I can&#8217;t understand how a business can madate a vaccine that is not advised by a veterinarian!  I loved the day care center and the dogs especially loved it there.  It breaks my heart to pull them out but it seems unethical to force an ultimatum for a vaccine that is not fully licensed.  And since when is the vaccination of my dogs a decision of the day care?  I will, with the educated advice of my vet, decide if and when to vaccinate them.  </p>
<p>Frustrated in Buffalo</p>
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		<title>By: Denver Accident Attorney Saul Sarney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Denver Accident Attorney Saul Sarney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 16:51:27 +0000</pubDate>
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